• lennybird@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    I’ll never understand why neither Harris nor at least Walz didn’t fully pierce into the echo-chamber of the manosphere.

    I thought this was half the point of picking Walz who could hold his own on guns and sports with Joe Rogan and all that shit.

    The closest Harris got was… Going on on Howard Stern? Gen Z men aren’t listening to Stern.

    Edit: I know why. They miscalculated (and I did, too). They thought women alone would turn out in a proportion greater than the historically-low turnout of young men. More than that, millions just fell for the both sides disinfo ops and sat out. But that doesn’t change the point that it was low risk / high reward to go on those outlets.

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      17 days ago

      My theory has been that left leaning men let other voices be heard. That came at the cost of letting the right fill the power vacuum. The left need to let their own assholes be assholes.

      I think Democrats have needed more chaotic good and lawful evil parts of the chart. Everyone else on the left need to realize those guys will need to say the wrong things for the right reasons. After all the messaging is not for you. It’s for the boys with a tendency to the right.

      What they say will not agree with you. Lose the battle, win the war.