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You can uninstall it with
winget uninstall cortana, never gave me any issues, works like a charm. Removing edge will break some stuff though, you need some edge render thingie for certain programs like Weather.Then remove weather
But we need weather! For crops and days on the beach and shit!
Reject crops, embrace starvation
Call me a basic bitch, but I actually prefer the inverse…
PO TAY TOES
Ahh, the Irish conundrum… do I eat it now, or do I wait and drink it later?
Boil em mash em stick em in a stew
But think of all the weight you will lose
While I definitely COULD stand to lose a few, I’ve heard some pretty bad things about crash diets… You’re not gonna trick me into drinking cayenne pepper lemonade, right?
Drinking? No, it only impedes the process. Trust the process. It might feel weird / wrong at first, but it will get better. You will not regret it.
Reject rejection, embrace embracing?
No one is going to use weather on a PC, that’s what a phone is for
Why would I pick up my phone to check the weather when I’m on my PC already?
I mean is it so much work to lift your phone up tho
It’s unnecessary work considering I have weather app/website on my PC. I don’t see why I’d bother
Yeah the web browser weather is even better because it doesn’t actually take up any space on the computer too. Good point
i have it in ny kde bar on my Endeavoros machine, i use arch (kinda) btw
How is Endeavor OS? I’m using kubuntu now and wanted to switch to something with a lean base. I recall there were some issues with the founder leaving the project.
didn’t hear anything about that, maybe you mean AntergOs? Endeavor Os is kinda the follow-up from AntergOs when the founder there stopped working on it.
but endeavor is it’s own thing very close to pure arch just has a nice gui installer.
I can only recommend trying it, AUR is awesome.
Oh I think it might be elementaryOS. I remember never getting antergOS to install, good old times. That said, I do have experience with bare arch install and AUR is indeed awesome.
I no longer use arch btw. I will try endeavor this weekend, thanks!
I use Arch with KDE, can confirm that I have weather on my panel too 👌🏻
It’s enabled on my work terminal. It’s actually kinda useful to be able to check if I’m dismissing class into a snowstorm or something when we’re in a room without windows.
When you live in a place like Boston, you really need that app
I remember, back in the windows 10 days if you uninstall Cortana, Windows search (start menu search) just breaks
But I guess it makes sense now that this works because Microsoft itself is ditching Cortana for Bing AI
Oh shiny new thing!
Well it’s just that Bing AI is what Cortana was supposed to be, but couldn’t have been.
Makes sense they’d ditch it and integrate an LLM model instead.
Edge WebView, which can be installed separately. A few third-party apps depend on it.
It’s basically the new Electron, without most of the bloat of the old Electron. Pretty sweet deal for app developers who need to write an app for both desktops and phones.
You are the real mvp here. Just ran it in cmdprompt and it worked like a charm. Love you, random person.
I removed edge from my system , works fine for me !
Linux is an option.
Didn’t work. I switched to Linux and still no option to uninstall Cortana
sudo apt autopurge cortana
Cortana was uninstalled as part of the Linux install process. It’s a two-in-one deal.
Linux
is an optionis the answer.What you’re referring to as the answer, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
All hail Stallman
only if the question is “What can make me so angry as to throw my computer out the window”.
lol
Computers are hard
Me: Hey linux, uninstall GCC
Linux: are you sure?
ME: sudo do it
Linux: ok
Me: hey linux, update packages
Linux: error
Me: linux reinstall GCC
Linux: error
A short adventure with a valuable lesson learned by myself.
What distro requires gcc!? Arch!!?
No, arch doesn’t need GCC. Maybe Gentoo. But this smells like a troll anyway
I’m wondering if they meant glibc, that would cause issues
Yes it was glibc, been a few years, and yes I was on Arch at the time
Hell yeah. I changed my main OS to Linux mint. First time on Linux, and I love it so far.
I only use Windows for stuff that Linux cant run yet.I keep wanting to switch, but the fact you just said you still use windows for some things is enough for me to just stick with windows, until Linux can do everything windows can then I feel like constantly switching is more hassle than whatever improvements Linux provides
I installed Mint as dual boot over a year ago and the only reason I ever booted back was one game that didn’t run quite well enough. Of course depending on your wants and needs it may vary, but you won’t know until you give it a shot.
I wonder if there is anything on Linux that lets you install windows as a container, like a reverse of WSL
The only thing holding me back is warzone which requires windows because of the anticheat.
All of my other games work better on a lightweight Linux install with proton compatibility than on Windows.
Well, my favorite is The Dark Mod (OpenSource), it works on all OS, but generally most games are Windows only, at least if you want more than sidescrollers or games like those 20 years ago. The problem is not that Windows is better for gaming than Linux, rather the opposite, the problem is only the availability of games for Linux, not something else. Mac users have them even worse, at least if you don’t settle for things like Mario Bros or 8 Bit sidescrollers.
until Linux can do everything windows can
It already can. It can even run a huge amount of Windows-only software.
In fact, Linux can do way more than Windows can (like installing multiple desktop environments and switching between them as you like).
Not sure exactly how the Linux multiple desktops work but windows is able to do this also, unless I’m confusing it for something else
unless I’m confusing it for something else
You are. What you’re talking about are virtual desktops or virtual workspaces.
I said “desktop environments”, which is a specific thing in Linux. It’s the GUI and suite of tools that come with it. They all tend to have a usecase in mind and different philosophy. There’s Gnome, KDE Plasma, xfce, lxde, Budgie, Cinnamon, Sway, and a whole bunch more that I can’t remember.
KDE Plasma exist also for Windows and even MacOS. https://docs.kde.org/stable5/en/khelpcenter/fundamentals/install.html
Well now, that’s certainly something I didn’t expect!
Although the site for the Windows installer doesn’t work
So it’s basically themes and preset packs of apps?
No, nothing like that. It can seem that way from a quick glance, but there’s so much more under the surface.
It’s such a large change under the surface that sometimes the exact same system, but with a different DE is considered its own distro, but usually they’re called spins.
In Windows you can do this too by default, without the need to install nothing. In the setting you can create several desktops or monitors, separate or continuos. By default Windows include a lot of features, even speech to text or command, you can create your own fonts with a tool that Windows has by default (eudcedit) and a ton of other tools it has. That Linux can do more than Windows is nonsense, this isn’t the advantage Linux has, en both you can do way more than you ever need.
In Windows you can do this too by default
No it can’t. You don’t even know what I’m talking about, clearly. I said “desktop environments”. I didn’t say anything about virtual workspaces. The only alternative desktop environment I know about for Windows is Stardock, and even that was a massive hack. I don’t even know if they still exist.
By default Windows include a lot of features
Ironically, this is one of Windows’ largest issues. They give you everything including the kitchen sink, but they used construction glue to hold everything in place. So all those features you don’t need or want (Xbox Gamebar, or whatever it’s called now) is impossible to remove without breaking the system.
even speech to text or command, you can create your own fonts with a tool that Windows has by default (eudcedit) and a ton of other tools it has.
Oh sure, like any mature OS for the past two decades.
That Linux can do more than Windows is nonsense
I guess you missed the tongue-in-cheek tone from my comment. But even so, Linux being able to do more than Windows is a valid point. And the things it does the same as Windows, it sometimes does them better (things like performance and stability)
For example: On Linux, I can setup a new drive with BTRFS or even ZFS. Can’t do that on Windows, because our choices there are: FAT32, exFAT, and good ol’ NTFS.
en both you can do way more than you ever need.
This is definitely true for most average users.
Well, if you mean customize the Desktop, there are certainly several apps. The first which ocurres me is Rainmeter (FOSS), also Rainlendar(Freemium), and some others. Not a big Problem with this.
I don’t mean the obvious functions and features of Windows, like Xbox, but a lot of apps included, such as the aforementioned eudcedit or the somewhat more well-known GodMode. The problem is that these are very little to nothing documented by MS.
Where I give you the reason is in performance, although at this point Windows has also improved a lot, at least in this aspect I have no complaints at all in W10 (well, at least after removing all the unnecessary services that it brings by default). On Linux it is perhaps somewhat better, but it also depends a lot on the Distro you use, some can also be quite resource hungry.
Regarding stability, I have no complaints since W7 either, Windows is a fairly stable system, even more W10. In old Windows an Appcrash mostly also crashed or blocked the system, not so in last versions. In W10, if an app crash, Windows simply takes you back to the desktop, killing the process, or a Menu appears when an app doesn’t respond, giving you the choice if you want to wait if it finishes responding, or kill the process.
if you mean customize the Desktop
No, that’s not what I mean. DEs are so involved that sometimes just changing the DE on the installer qualifies as a new distro. Rainmeter is literally just theming your desktop. Not even close.
or the somewhat more well-known GodMode
Linux comes with God mode out of the box. It’s called root.
Edit: I just want to point out that I actually know what god-mode is on Windows. However, I find it funny that Microsoft called it “god-mode” when on Linux those are the most mundane settings you could find. If you think god-mode is interesting, then KDE Plasma would implode your brain and spawn a microverse. You can even configure how Windows behave and how you interact with them on a per application or per window basis. And that’s just scratching the surface. /End Edit
although at this point Windows has also improved a lot,
Most of that improvement is a direct result of better hardware. I’m not kidding. Try to install Windows 10 on an HDD. The disk gets thrashed so hard that it’s a miracle they don’t catch on fire.
Another fun fact is that Microsoft changed the boot for Windows 10 to compete with Linux and macOS. Windows now shows the desktop to the user before even loading services. So you see your desktop, but you can’t use it right away. On both Linux and macOS as soon as you see your desktop, your system has loaded.
some can also be quite resource hungry.
All of them are better than Windows. A lot of this comes down to the CPU scheduler. The one Windows uses is slower than just about every other OS out there.
In old Windows an Appcrash mostly also crashed or blocked the system, not so in last versions.
This hasn’t been the case since well before XP. In fact, for most OSes this hasn’t been the case for at least a decade or two.
What specifically do you still need Windows for? It’s possible that you can get it all running under Proton.
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Yeah, we’re not fond of giving ring 0 to BigShittyGameCo.
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You’re getting downvoted by people, but your position is totally valid.
“Linux works perfectly for everything if you just don’t do the thing you want to do” is a less than compelling argument.
Not everyone considers granting kernel level access to untrustworthy entities a feature.
Ironically, Windows has the largest FOSS catalog of any OS, apart from soft proprietary of course. Also, many official and professional business apps are only available for Windows. Gaming can also be a reason to use Windows, although this is slowly changing.
I only use Windows for stuff that Linux cant run yet
Can you share some examples? I’m genuinely curious.
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Me: Linux, can you uninstall the bootloader and kernel?
Linux: sure thing
A lot of linux desktop environments will break as well if you remove some seemingly useless package
$sudo apt remove kwrite
The following packages with also be REMOVED: kde-plasma-desktop, [all the other KDE desktop packages]
Shut the fuck up man literally every single post about any other operating system is “SWITCH TO LINUX, YOU WON’T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH LINUX!!! LOOK HOW MUCH BETTER LINUX IS!!! LINUXXXXXXXX!!!”
All it does is give all the circle jerkers a reason to spam comments and not listen to anybody else’s opinions besides their own and it does absolutely nothing helpful for the post
maybe bc linux is better?
No
I guessing this is a just a bad copy pasta
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User: “Hey Linux, I want to remove the / directory.”
Linux: “Go ahead, just remember to use sudo.”
I read that this might remove efivars from your motherboard and brick your hardware. There was a workaround but not sure if it’s safe hardware wise now. I would like to do this to my laptop before reinstalling with btrfs but I’m kinda scared.
Need -no-preserve-root :(. They made Linux way too child friendly imo. It messes with my workflow. Now my old scripts don’t work anymore T_T
just do
sudo rm -rf /*and it works withoutI think that’s okay as long they allow you to remove the safe guards.
Doesn’t uninstalling edge end with a broken taskbar? Or am I remembering wrongly
Sounds about right, the start bar is tied in to Bing search. Uninstalling IE would cause all sorts of issues back in the day.
IE is still there. You can’t use it anymore but Windows can. I also don’t think they can ever get rid of IE Options - they changed the name to Internet Options but it’s exactly the same and will break so many networks if they ever get rid of it
You’re remembering wrongly.
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Edgecore sounds like a really exciting but actually bland genre of music.
Sounds like it would be all build-up and never a drop
Edge is completely safe to remove in my testing, at least if removed through the Chris Titus Utility.
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Even the Ameliorated Project playbooks work as well for the debloating/despywareing.
Didn’t they lose a lawsuit about tying the browser into the OS?
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So his Meme is correct the system will break if you force it to uninstall something?
No for 95% of packages.
Yes for packages that are indeed part of the system.
“Oh no I deleted a system file and now features that rely on that file don’t work! How weird! Microsoft bad”
There’s a “Getting Started” app built in to win11 that is both completely useless and totally unremovable by any method without breaking the OS.
That’s because it’s not an app. Do “Winget list” and you’ll see it’s not there.
It’s part of the shell. Open it up, look at task manager, and you’ll see it’s not spawning new processes. Which also mean it’s irrelevant - it doesn’t add any background tasks, modifies any files or in anyway interfere with the users. It’s quite literally just an icon created by the shell.
Its more of the dependency chain. I wouldn’t consider tying your taskbar, web browser, and other microservices together like that a good thing in any ecosystem. Its not really the fact that removing system files breaks your system. Its that the taskbar and web browser should not be considered Core. People want to choose and not have their non-choice staring at them with their new gurl from the sidelines.
And the web browser being an integral part of the OS is a fucking joke to most of us.
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Do you use Android? Chrome is the native WebView that a good chunk of your apps use.
Wait… so you are talking about webviews when I was talking about the actual browser? Lmao… talk about a false equivalency.
This is got many advantages and many disavantages. If you dislike it, fair enough - but let’s not pretend this is unusual or somehow unjustifiable.
I’m talking about forcing the actual browser installation. Nothing you said has countered this, Android doesn’t force Chrome to be installed for webviews in applications. The webview class is nothing close to being a full browser, and certainly doesn’t require a browser to be installed to use it. If anything, that is an example of the right way to do it… having a separate class, that is not dependent on the actual browser installation.
Yes, please go on, I can’t wait to hear more of your ridiculous takes.
You can easily remove Edge but need to install Edge WebView.
The person you are replying to is completely right and you’re wrong.
webview != browser… what is so hard to understand about this? The fact that an OS is reliant on a browser out of the box, is absolutely ridiculous. If all these app dependencies were on the Edge Webview base instead of pointed at the actual browser installation, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
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You have got to be trolling.
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Most things are probably fine, though Windows updates might do something funky or just put it back from where you threw out that trash.
But Edge is a different story. Microsoft in their infinite wisdom decided to make Edge, their web browser, essential for Windows Explorer, their file manager and desktop among other things, to function properly.
So if you get rid of Edge, things can get kinda fucky. I haven’t looked into if someone has made a workaround, I know that there are modified “debloated” Windows installs that do some heavy duty mucking about in there, but I don’t know if anyone’s figure out how to give Edge the ax without making your desktop freak out.
That was definitely by design. I’m surprised they haven’t done that with more of their other bloatware tbh.
You just need to install Edge WebView separately.
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Yes, though I’m pretty sure I’ve uninstalled or atleast disabled cortana with no problems
At some point this holds true for any and all environments.
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My biggest issue with windows is it not telling you the exact reason for some weird behavior, and then making it intentionally difficult to go in and modify/fix it yourself.
Linux might break more often, but when it does I’ve ALWAYS been able to recover or restore it far far easier than I ever could on a windows machine, partially due to the actually helpful error messages.
Linux might break more often, but when it does I’ve ALWAYS been able to recover or restore it
Yep. On Windows the mantra is always “Just reinstall”.
Linux might break more often
I convinced my work to allow me to use Linux on my work laptop. I have far less issues now.
In my experience, Windows breaks way more often.
I can’t confirm this, since W7 until now on W10 I have not seen a BSOD again. This only happened to me in previous versions on a few occasions. It wasn’t that serious either, restarting and issue resolved. In the past with Ubuntu, which at the time was a disaster, I have had many crashes or I have been left without a desktop due to incompatibilities with it’s Compiz, changing to Kubuntu this no longer happened, resulting much more stable. In general, the current OS, be it Linux or Windows, are very stable OS.
Something breaking doesn’t need to be a BSOD. It can be minor things that either don’t work properly and annoy you, or something that breaks and now gets in your way.
However, in all three cases I would still say Linux is better. I’ve administered many hundreds (if not thousands, I honestly don’t know) of systems. So I’m not just basing my opinion on a few systems.
If you have an Windows account you also can recover it from any desaster with one click, restoring the system. But naturally you must spend an afternoon afterwards to restore your original settings, throw out all the garbage and reinstall all your applications and files.
If you have an Windows account you also can recover it from any desaster with one click, restoring the system.
Only if there’s enough of the operating system left to successfully boot and restore itself. If not, good luck.
I can resuscitate a broken Debian setup by booting a USB installer and reinstalling all of the packages on it, assuming the dpkg database
/var/lib/dpkg/statusis still intact. I can also back up the entire system, apps and all, and later restore everything; there are no hidden secret invisible file shenanigans like on Windows.You cab do that with Linux if you use backups/snapshots.
I’ve done it many times using LVM way back when.
“Bad elf magic” isn’t a particularly helpful error message. (It means a shared library couldn’t be loaded because it’s corrupt, for a different kind of machine, built for a very different dynamic linker, or something along those lines.)
Windows is a good and stable OS with a reasonable privacy, BUT ONLY if the first thing you do in a new PC with Windows, to spend an afternoon disabling and throwing out a ton of junk, trials, unnecessary services and functions and most of the telemetry. So if you have a fast and compliant OS. Luckily Windows allows all this, but naturally it requires an advanced user (registry and servicelists can be a comanche territory if you don’t exacly know what you do) and M$ does not offer much documentation and help on this topic either, of course. But in the new online subscription version they will naturally nip these possibilities in the bud.
You can’t disable the tracking properly at all so no clue where you get that reasonable privacy first…
Yo can desactivate completly all telemetries, if you want. But it isn’t very usefull. Privacy is often misunderstood, a privacy problem can be when personal data is leaked, your activities on- and offline, but not so much technical details of your PC in case an error report is sent for a driver or other issue, if they send a report about the version of Windows, searches for security updates and patches, things like that that do not compromise privacy at all, because it is data that is identical to millions of other users who use a similar system. Alll other you can block, desactivate or desinstall, apart simply avoiding to use EDGE or Bing por searches, using instead you prefered browser and search engine, which you surely do. I use the Portmaster app, with which I controll all the outgoing and incomming traffic, even blocking it if needed, because of this I know that there isn’t any strange thing that compromises privacy.
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You can implement Telementry in a privacy preserving way if you put in some effort but a lot of technical details are anything but unique and absolutely a risk to your privacy, not to talk about what big tech sometimes calls Telemetry. You can disable the majority of tracking in Windows but that takes literal hours and a lot of knowledge and the highest settings (if you aren’t on the enterprise version) still tell you that some data is send to Microsoft servers without specifiying what that is. Portmaster is a cool app but all you can see there are servers your computer connects to and every Windows computer unless it’s cribbled down to the point where updates are disabled connects to Microsoft servers which is okay but also ensures that you can’t know from that data…
Lol, I am viewed as an absolute Wizard by some of my friends in IT, because I am not at all afraid of RegEdit. Just don’t touch anything at all without triple checking that that is in fact the key you want to be playing with.
I’ll have to remember “Comanche Territory”!
Use Winternals sysmon to suss out problem registry keys and file permissions and their minds will be blown.
Yes, no much problem with the cleartext software part, but the other where you see only numbers are not so easy, just easy to turn your PC into a Paperweight. This really isn’t very intuitive
Easier the Services, although you can also screw up there
Windows is a good and stable OS with a reasonable privacy
{Looks around confused}
What the hell dimension did I walk into?!?
I mean, hes not wrong if hes talking about Windows 7.
if hes talking about 10 or 11, then the dudes clearly on LSD.
At least W10 in this point isn`t different from W7, not sure in W11 and user intervencion with W12 and W365 online with subscription ends completely. Until now you can still gut Windows to your like, without LSD, maybe with some Tranxilium.
Read also the rest what is necessary to make Windows private and stable. Nothing new that Windows by default is a privacy nightmare, but you can change it, but how to do this is not in the Windows Helpfile.
If my OS installs broken by default. I’m just going to use something that’s not broken. Simple as that.
Just the fact that windows has a hidden “true administrator” account that you have to use for some stuff, and is not easily accessible makes it way harder to take control of your own hardware.
Linux has the same thing, with the root account, but you can access it from a single
sudo sucommand in a terminal (which is mostly pointless since sudo itself executes commands with the highest priviledges).Also, Microsoft, not every damn thing needs a GUI. I’d rather have a good command line experience than having to trifle through the registry.
I know all this, I already mentioned elsewhere that I laugh when some users say they don’t use Linux, because it is an OS for advanced users. No, it is precisely Windows that requires a more advanced user than Linux, when you really need to modify something, which naturally cannot be done with the GUI and requires using the console (cmd). On Linux this is the rule for everything (although less and less), on Windows you can do most of it with GUI, but not all of it, if you don’t want to use a third party app. In General Windows is only easier and more intuitive to use superficially, but in depth it is a minefield, much more complicated and less intuitive than Linux.
What trials?
Only thing I had to remove was Skype and there are tools that let you do whatever you want in a matter of minutes.
Yes, there are some tools which can help, eg https://github.com/hellzerg/optimizer, also Windows itself has the GodMode, but it need somewhat more than this and only remove Skype, MS Store and Cortana.
I don’t use Windows, but doesn’t the LTSC and/or Enterprise edition come with better defaults?
I don’t know, I’ve the Home edition and this came by default with a lot of crap and services to “improve the User experience” as they call it euphemistically and that can only be understood sarcastically.
Yeah, LTSC is basically how Windows should be, with less bloatware and security updates only.
or the server version. But it is difficult and/or expensive for ordinary users to use any of the unbloated versions.
Yeah, cause shockingly enterprise customers don’t like the idea of microsoft taking big chunks of data for no rhyme or reason.
Maybe I’m just really fast but it takes me about 10 minutes. About the same amount of time I spend installing and customing a fresh Linux install.
In one of the recent insider builds they enable the ability to uninstall it from the usual add/remove programs, as they’re ending support for it.
I did nothing and my (Linux) system broke! Beat that Windows! Thank god for Snapper.
Just gotta run a quick apt update… And everything broke.
Mostly looking at Docker, though. The Compose Plugin has been broken since v2.19. Domain resolution is fucked and it refuses to restart services if they depend on another service.
Sounds like
pacman -SyyuWhy do people like Docker so much, anyway? Seems to me like it’s just static linking with extra steps and extra problems.
Once, 2ish years ago I think by now? I was trying to clean up all the shit I installed to compile something because it wasnt available on apt, had a repository, or had a .deb (I was on ubuntu at the time).
I mistyped something and ended up removing Python. Got no warning, no red text, no nothing. It just uninstalled it as if it was nothing.
I rebooted, and learned that a lot of fucking shit depends on python. because I no longer had a DE and could only boot into a terminal. after 2 hours of trying to unfuck it, I just used a live cd to save what files I could and reinstalled.
Oh, and I never got the program compiled and working. and never tried again on the fresh install. I dont even remember what it was now. Something for gaming, probably.
The great advantage of Linux is the freedom to do as you please, but it also assumes that you know what you are doing. Windows also allows you to do everything, but only if you ignore the hysterical attacks of the System, but you must also know what you are doing.
an OS should never assume the user knows what its doing, cause users are idiots, even the smart ones. especially the smart ones. lol
Yes, thats the difference, Linux assume that the user knows exactly what he’s doing, Windows assume that the user is a Banjoplaying Redneck.
an OS should never assume the user knows what its doing, cause users are idiots, even the smart ones. especially the smart ones. lol
The ability to shoot yourself in the foot is great, but you have to remember that Unix is a gleeful imp holding a monkey paw and makes book on the side with his friend the evil genie.
Here’s a shotgun, go bonkers. Foot is that way. Don’t forget to sudo.
Shoedo?
That’s why gentoo is the best
This is why I use Aptitude and review all proposed changes (other than straight package upgrades) before proceeding. Blindly running stuff like
apt full-upgradeis crazy to me.
Uninstalling Internet Explorer breaks windows 10
Same with ubuntu and snaps
Ubuntu became horrible. Good for the people that enjoy it, tho. Not all users care about the same things. I left the Canonicalverse and landed on Debian. Happy as a clam.
Same except arch and suse
I still use ubuntu and oracle linux on my servers tbf
Android is Windows’ twin sibling.
i can’t open .webp files anymore because edge doesn’t exist anymore, and i’m too lazy to change the “default opener program™”.
