And about the democracy Sweden gets a 100/100 in the democracy index.
So, not only are you wrong about their socialism but also on the democracy. Ergo, you are a disinformation spreader and someone that under communism would 100% be an enemy of the state.
The nordic model is a hybrid of social democracy (liberal, not socialist) and corporatism (definitely not socialist).
All forms of socialism, from anarchism / libertarian socialism to democratic socialism to marxism-leninism, are fundamentally anti-capitalist. The sooner you get this the sooner you’ll stop making a fool of yourself.
I understand that, but some people say “hey Scandinavia kinda socialist though” and you know what? Scandinavia is in general a decent place. Also, as another commenter said, Sweden got a 100/100 on the democracy index and there is a list of government owned enterprises in Sweden.
Again: my only beef is with those who support Stalin and whatever the ccp is doing (putin supporters too) and I’m personally leaning probably more towards democratic socialism or ancom (not sure though)
If you’re leaning towards ancom then why tf are you looking at government of any form through rose coloured glasses. Nordic governments being more ““democratic”” than Putin’s or Xi’s governments doesn’t make them “decent”. They’re still structured after capitalism, they’re just better at exporting their exploitation.
And no offense, but you have no fucking idea what the the PRC is doing. You know nothing about their government structure, how policy is carried out, or the way the system functions at all. I guarantee you could not name the tiers of government, or even three government officials without looking it up. Your ignorance is shown right away by the fact that you say “CCP” (Chinese Communist Party) when the correct acronym is “CPC” (Communist Party of China). This is such a simple mistake that proves you have not read any media outside of the west regarding China.
As a point of unhelpful pedantry: I feel the need to point out that social democracy, while far preferable to liberal democracy, doesn’t actually qualify as socialism since it doesn’t guarantee workers control over the means of production.
But also, that’s far less important than recognizing that Stalinism is fundamentally awful so you’re doing far better than anyone on Hexbear.
Edit: to Hexbear people, don’t reply. I don’t care about your opinion about anything. If anyone posts a Tankie meme at me I’m reporting you for harassment.
It was a rhetorical question, of course they don’t.
Hexbear’s preference for China and Russia have nothing to do with communism and everything to do with their alignment with and love for their dictators.
Scandinavia isn’t fascist. They’re the type of socialism (democratic socialism) that I approve of.
But stalinism and whatever the CCP is doing? Throw. It. Out. The. Funking. Window.
Edit: changed some words cuz I messed them up
Lmao how many people own the means of production in Scandinavia?
It certainly isn’t a democracy, given that they’re a capitalist country where the oligarchy of wealthy companies get more say than the average person.
Again, what do you think socialism is? What do you think fascism is for that matter?
Well, there are quite a lot of government owned by the Scandinavian government: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_government_enterprises_of_Sweden?wprov=sfla1
And about the democracy Sweden gets a 100/100 in the democracy index.
So, not only are you wrong about their socialism but also on the democracy. Ergo, you are a disinformation spreader and someone that under communism would 100% be an enemy of the state.
socialism is when people within my borders are happy
the happier they are the more socialistier it is (this analogy probably still doesn’t even make sense if you look at suicide rates lmao)
The nordic model is a hybrid of social democracy (liberal, not socialist) and corporatism (definitely not socialist).
All forms of socialism, from anarchism / libertarian socialism to democratic socialism to marxism-leninism, are fundamentally anti-capitalist. The sooner you get this the sooner you’ll stop making a fool of yourself.
I understand that, but some people say “hey Scandinavia kinda socialist though” and you know what? Scandinavia is in general a decent place. Also, as another commenter said, Sweden got a 100/100 on the democracy index and there is a list of government owned enterprises in Sweden.
Again: my only beef is with those who support Stalin and whatever the ccp is doing (putin supporters too) and I’m personally leaning probably more towards democratic socialism or ancom (not sure though)
If you’re leaning towards ancom then why tf are you looking at government of any form through rose coloured glasses. Nordic governments being more ““democratic”” than Putin’s or Xi’s governments doesn’t make them “decent”. They’re still structured after capitalism, they’re just better at exporting their exploitation.
Social democracy is not socialism, it is social-fascism, class collaboration leeching off the wealth of the global south like a settler vampire from the hill of the imperialism. Look at how social democratic settlers treat immigrants, or minorities/natives. You fundamentally do not understand what socialism is.
And no offense, but you have no fucking idea what the the PRC is doing. You know nothing about their government structure, how policy is carried out, or the way the system functions at all. I guarantee you could not name the tiers of government, or even three government officials without looking it up. Your ignorance is shown right away by the fact that you say “CCP” (Chinese Communist Party) when the correct acronym is “CPC” (Communist Party of China). This is such a simple mistake that proves you have not read any media outside of the west regarding China.
As a point of unhelpful pedantry: I feel the need to point out that social democracy, while far preferable to liberal democracy, doesn’t actually qualify as socialism since it doesn’t guarantee workers control over the means of production.
But also, that’s far less important than recognizing that Stalinism is fundamentally awful so you’re doing far better than anyone on Hexbear.
Edit: to Hexbear people, don’t reply. I don’t care about your opinion about anything. If anyone posts a Tankie meme at me I’m reporting you for harassment.
Does the average Chinese or Russian worker control the means of production, or do they not?
As far as I am aware, they do not.
It was a rhetorical question, of course they don’t.
Hexbear’s preference for China and Russia have nothing to do with communism and everything to do with their alignment with and love for their dictators.