• toastus@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    Bullshit Apples and bullshit Oranges.

    Mild pressure is put on the catholic church as an organization (!) to stop actively aiding the still ongoing mass rape of children over multiple continents through their clergy.

    That is not even close to the same as expecting all people of Muslim believe to denounce things that completely independent people do that just so happen to also be Muslim.

    And don’t get me wrong, Islam might be even more stupid and archaic than Christianity, but your argument just doesn’t hold water at all.
    I would go so far as to say that it is likely that this very argument was conceived as a racist fig leaf to have some reasonable sounding argument to not like brown people.
    Not that this is necessarily your motivation, but you just publicly repeated it.

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      Being concerned about Muslim extremeism != racism. You’re the reason people like geert are winning. People are tired of bad faith arguments with the left in which common sense is called racism.

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        Common sense is not boiling hundreds of years worth of geopolitics into a single talking point and acting like you’ve somehow solved all problems in an area if we just somehow did this one thing.

        In fact, the extremism you are talking about is largely due to foreign countries destabilizing regions around the world that happen to be majority Muslim countries.

        You’d respond the same way if a handful of countries showed up at your doorstep, set up military bases, bombed your neighbors, friends, and family, and then toppled your government causing wide spread famine, inflation, and collapse of your economy.

        Honestly, how could you not end up hating someone for doing that?

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          The lack of self awareness is hilarious. You are literally proving my point. “Everyone who doesn’t agree with my extremely ideology is a racist”

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        You’re the reason people like geert are winning.

        Says the apologist repeating some of the rhetoric Wilders and his voters use to try and convince non-islamophobes to vote and behave like islamophobes.

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        You’re the reason people like geert are winning.

        No I am not and right wing nuts blaming the left for even more extreme right wing nuts is just an obvious lie.

        The empirically proven truth is though, that people like Wilders, LePen, Farage, Trump, Höcke etc. are successful because their inflammatory racist rhetoric gets echoed by stupid “centrists” that care more about fighting the left than the right.

        People like you.

        But I understand that it feels much better for you to blame lefty people that you don’t like anyway.