Seriously, what people expected from it?

  • 001100 010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I love the smell of freedom in Lemmy. My instance admin is an anarchist. We have a piracy community. Such perfect harmony. 😄

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      I love that my instance got called “Liberal troll instance” by Lemmygrad

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            I’ll be the odd one out here and write that I don’t mind not having the ability to migrate. The platform is intended to be pseudo-anonymous. I think one shouldn’t become too attached to their particular name and instead focus on the ideas being discussed and the information exchanged.

            For the same reason I hope karma continues to not be a thing and ignored by most clients even if the backend reports it.

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        Most of those instances are filled with bots. I mean the thing about lemmy is that the block list is transparent. You can visit them yourself to see if the defederation is justified. You can’t just allow all content unfiltered. You’d end up with fascism, tankies, spam, underaged porn, malware, etc. Freedom does not mean no rules, without rules would mean others can violate your freedom to explore lemmy without being constantly harassed. I have the freedom to use multiple instances if I do not agree with the decisions of the admins, which so far, I haven’t had a problem with, nor do I expect there will be in the future. Lemmy is built so that if one instance’s admins goes rogue, the userbase could always migrate.

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            Do you think anarchist societies dont have rules? Anarchism just means they reject the existence of a state, but they can still have rules that are enforced by the society as a whole. Anarchism =/= Chaos.

            Besides, no matter how Anarchist you want to be, the reality is that governments still exist, and ad long as they continue to exist, you must obey it’s laws. You can’t allow stuff like terrorism and malware to be on your platform, you’ll get shut down. Do you think we don’t want to share direct link to pirated content? We can’t because that would get us a lot of trouble with some government.

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            What does that have to do with anarchism? User created and moderated spaces are perfectly compatible with anarchism, imo.

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              But Fox News, OAN, CNN, and MSNBC told me anarchy was no rules! I bet you’re just one of those Antifa communist false flag crisis actors paid for by China, George Soros, and Hunter Biden’s leftover crack money /s

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      Lemmy was born on the 4th of July for many users who created their accounts as part of this big Reddit migration. For freedom on freedom day for many people.

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    Could we really be stupid enough to ever let Meta or Facebook back in our lives. We literally just left one hugely greedy CEO and now people are really thinking another one, who has already proved himself an asshole, is going to be different?

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      Yeah I just really can’t fathom the Meta apologists right now. If that’s the only way to bring a massive number of people to the fediverse I think I’d prefer we stay small.

      Just like Reddit when it started! Build it and they will come! I don’t need instant gratification…I need a rock solid community built on freedom from shareholder bootlicking.

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        I don’t really understand it. People left Facebook because the way they shifted the platform became less relevant to the younger audiences on it. And then it effectively died.

        Now Meta (literally Facebook rebranded because of how much they fucked up) is creating threads and people just forgot what Facebook did?

        Are people even thinking in the long term what’s going to happen, like what’s happened to reddit, Twitter and Facebook? Does nobody take a step back and take a minute to figure out what’s inevitably going to happen again? It’s bonkers to me.

        It starts with the user base complaining about a platform going to shit, doing nothing about it in the meantime, and when a “viable” replacement pops up it’s another privatized company that wholly plans to do the same exact thing that just happened to the one that’s dying.

        People’s attention spans are 24 hours long.

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          People left Facebook and joined Twitter because it’s a pared down version of Facebook with less fluff. Now Threads is a pared down Twitter with less bullshit and fluff (and is actually usable). The fact that Meta made Threads is only relevant because it gives Threads a legitimacy to the average end user that Mastodon doesn’t. People weren’t leaving Facebook because Meta owned it, so there’s no reason for them to care that Meta runs Threads. If Elon didn’t buy Twitter and turn it into a shitshow, Threads would have been DOA.

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    American entities love censoring opinions they don’t like. It’s why Lemmy is so great. Parts of the fediverse are likely to exist completely externally to the US corporate “”“community standards”“” which seem primarily to entice other corporate entities to advertise with them.

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      Forget companies. If you don’t like what you’re reading, simply register as a Republican and join a school board or run for governor. You’ll be able to ban all the books you want with impunity.

      Sarcastic quips aside, we literally have no context for what this post is about. Yet you’re already assuming it’s because of “wrongthink” or whatever.

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      that’s people in general. i’ve seen plenty posts here calling to ban ‘bad’ opinions or defederate instances that allow them.

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          Something that is important to keep in mind is that Reddit had a mod problem and it wasn’t created by spez, it’s created by some people not being able to have power without abusing it. We must not assume that, since this is a new platform, that there won’t ever be mod problems here.

          Personally, I’d like to see infrastructure for evaluating mods publically. Somewhere you can see a list of their actions after the fact so that people can see for themselves if a mod is acting in good faith. And then, based on that, it can be determined if the admins are acting in good faith by which mods they keep and which they remove. It would also make increasing the number of mods less risky because the problematic ones can be noticed and removed quicker.

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          i’ve lived through the fall of USSR so i consider modern communists incredibly naive but i wouldn’t try denying them their freedom to express themselves.

          as opposed to people who run around calling everyone they disagree with nazis just so that nobody would dare argue against them.

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    Arguably the fediverse is as free as it can possibly get without forcing other people to listen to you.

    The boundary of the limit of expressing your opinion is directly determined by other people’s willingness to listen. No CEO. No company policy. Just you and the community of users who are willing to listen. The standard is set by users.

    The more you push it, the more extreme your contact becomes, the smaller the community gets, until it’s just you imposing those views on no one but yourself.