• reev@sh.itjust.works
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        11 months ago

        Are they still a victim if they’ve been yelled at for close to a decade that these kinds of things are the standard for Facebook/Meta? I’ve tried telling friends and family so damn often but they just don’t care.

        It’s like giving someone you pass on the street your ID, walking away and thinking “man, I can’t believe that guy has my ID”. I’m with you if they really don’t know, I’m sure many don’t. But so many know fully well and just don’t care.

        If you ask me both are to blame. Meta is only in a position where they get away with this stuff because people are practically encouraging it.

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          11 months ago

          of course there is nuance. you are correct that both are to blame, but many people need to use facebook for family, friends, or work. it sucks that we as a society are so reliant on these companies, but thats how it is.

          just saying ‘dont use facebook’ is useless. we can advocate for changes at the same time as encouraging people to alternatives. its the same argument with windows/linux.

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            11 months ago

            I mean, it’s not that hard to just don’t. If anyone asks, just say I don’t use Facebook. And if they bitch, then so be it.

            If they share you Facebook links, click it if you must, but don’t log in. If you can’t watch the video because you don’t log in, then too bad.

            If it’s for work, then create a work account if absolutely necessary, but don’t use it for your personal shit.

            It’s really that easy.

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        11 months ago

        Are you a victim when you walk into the BDSM club, sign the waivers, call safe words a conspiracy, and cry rape afterwards?

        Edit: How about if you go back in after that?

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        11 months ago

        There is information available to make an informed choice, but they don’t. Is there really no guilt?

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      11 months ago

      ‘foresight’ is a gift provided to some folks who conceive things a little outside the norm, i suppose.