https://the-federation.info/platform/73 says for lemmy we have: 1,073,211 Users

It also says that: Last month users: 38897

Which is 2 orders of magnitude of a difference. If you look at the list of instances there ones like https://the-federation.info/node/details/48405 which have 50k users and 10 active last month users.

That means almost all of the 1 milion users are fake users.

I’m seeing people celebrating every 100k users every couple of hours without realizing this.

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    It’s not bullshit, it’s because of two reasons:

    First, “Active last month” refers to users who have posted a comment in the last month. Every site like this has a large number of lurkers. A good rule of thumb is 10% of subscribers/users actually post/comment/participate. So 350-400k “legitimate” users sounds like the right ballpark.

    Second, the numbers are so high because there has been a known bot attack. A few instances didn’t have email verification/captchas enabled so it was very easy to sign up for accounts very quickly. Some instances went from 500-800 users, to 10,000 users overnight.

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      It’s also probably inflated due to people making multiple accounts. I’m sure there’s lots of us (myself included) who made an account on one instance and then decided to swap to a different one.

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        That’s true. I first tried to create an account at beehaw but forgot about my application so I ended up on lemmy.world because it had open signups, so there’s at least 1 “useless” user account there.

        Seeing how beehaw shut themselves off, things kinda worked out for me lol.

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        Go on this page, sort by total users and compare to active users.

        Yes, I’ve been using this site for tracking too.

        lemmygrad.ml has 606 active users and 231752 comments

        I’m not sure I understand your point? If you’re saying that the active user : comment ratio for all other instances is off, then I think you got it the wrong way round. lemmygrad was one of the first instances to be developed, way before the reddit exodus, so their number of active users has dropped even as their comment count slowly grew over time.

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          600 active users a month making 230000 comments a month? Those are pretty active indeed

          Most of instances having 40K users but less than 100 actives?

          Compare the data of Lemmy.world with others. There is a common trend of ratio between users/active/posts and comments among them, and then there are those huge instances by users but zero activity?

          I’m sorry but there’s either a huge problem in the way users numbers are aggregated, or those users are just fake.

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            Yes, lemmygrad really is that active. Try going to the instance to poke around and you’ll see. 600 active means 600 people have posted in the last month - like I said, lemmygrad has been around for much, much longer, so there are users who posted and then fell off, so their posts are part of the 230k comments but they don’t make up part of the 600 users.

            Also, I don’t think you read my comment properly. What I said was that the numbers are not made up, but there are bot attacks on unsecured instances. Read my previous post again please.

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              Also, I don’t think you read my comment properly.

              Oh yes, I did. You are just finding ways:

              How can you say, “Not bulshit -but- attack by bots” “350-400k legitimate” ???

              That sentence alone tells me exactly what I need to know about your way of thinking, because even if you were correct about real users and not overestimate the numbers, 350K legitimate when everybody cheers 1 million is definitely bulshit.

              So ok, my bad. I shouldn’t have tried to have a sensical discussion with you.