An Australian teenager has died after drinking tainted alcohol in Laos in what Australia’s prime minister on Thursday called every parent’s nightmare. An American and two Danish tourists also died, officials said, following reports that several people had been sickened in a Laotian town popular with backpackers.

  • Sludgehammer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    23 hours ago

    I dunno, as I understand it getting enough methanol to kill from bad distilling is possible, but really easy to avoid. Even the most amateur distiller could avoid it… and they would probably avoid it since corpses are lousy repeat customers.

    No, my guess would be is that someone in the supply chain was doing some minor fraud by adding some industrial ethanol and water to the the whisky. Add a bucks worth of industrial ethanol to a gallon of whiskey and boom, now you have two gallons of whiskey. It’s gonna be mixed into drinks and sold to drunk tourists, and it probably tasted like crap to begin with, so who’s gonna notice a slightly shittier flavor? Except this time somebody screwed up and got some de-natured alcohol rather then pure ethanol.

    • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      23 hours ago

      easy to avoid if you want to avoid it.

      I think you have a higher regard for the stringent ethics of poverty-stricken moonshiners than I do.

      but what you’re saying certainly could have happened also.

    • Saleh@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      14 hours ago

      Industrial ethanol? It is still just ethanol. It is not more poisonous because it is “industrial”.

      When referring to “industrial alcohol” it always means methanol in that context.

      And for industrial purposes fermentation is still the way to make ethanol, rather than chemical synthesis.

      Finally, what is denatured alcohol even supposed to mean? Proteins can denature, but they are complex molecules. Alcohol cannot denature.

      I am sorry, but what you write does not make any sense.

      • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        13 hours ago

        Denatured ethanol has denatonium benzoate in it, yes it’s a strange word which I suspect primarily serves a legislative purpose. If it had been denatured alcohol, nobody would have died, it would have just tasted bitter.

        • Saleh@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          12 hours ago

          Still what he said doesnt make sense as the compound is added specificqlly to make the ethanol undrinkable and therefore not eligble for alcohol taxes like you said.

          • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            11 hours ago

            Not disputing that, they have clearly muddled a few things up. Perhaps they mean methylated spirit - that has methanol and denatonium benzoate added to it, but I haven’t seen it for sale in many years as it kept killing homeless alcoholics.