cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/17202407

Sen. Roger Marshall (R-KS) introduced a bill this week to legally erase transgender people, entitled the “Defining Male and Female Act of 2024.” He claimed that the bill will stop what he called the Biden administration’s attempt to “replace biological sex with dangerous radical gender ideology.”

The bill is a long list of terms and definitions, where words like “father” and “girl” are defined with the words “male” and “female.” Those two words are then defined as “an individual who naturally has, had, will have, or would have, but for a congenital anomaly or intentional or unintentional disruption, the reproductive system that at some point produces, transports and utilizes [sperm or eggs for male or female, respectively] for fertilization.”

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    Making everything sexual for children while not even acknowledging the sickness of it.

    Same shit said about gay people.

    Being gay isn’t sexual. Being straight isn’t sexual. Being trans isn’t sexual. Someone saying they are a girl is not sexual. Someone saying they are a boy is not sexual.

    You see how none of this relates to sex?

    The real answer is that a lot of people don’t really understand being trans. A lot of people used to the same way about gay and lesbian people. Conservatives tried to rally hard against gay and lesbian people, but that proved unpopular. Trans people don’t have that same protection. So, they’ll go after it until people finally get it.

    Conservatives only have identity politics.

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      I’m referring to nudity and expressing sexuality in front of children. Drag and children. Parades of expression with children involved. Seeing essentially naked men and women and children being encouraged to interact in it.

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        Good lord, nudity isn’t even a real issue. I regularly swim laps at my local public pool, and the changing room and showers regularly see a mix of children and adults. I don’t see any kids getting their innocence destroyed in the locker room or showers, and we’re all naked in there.

        People only care when it’s trans people wearing clothes. They don’t really care about nudity, they’re trying to create a moral panic about queer people by suggesting that they are a threat to children.

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          You really think I’m talking about locker rooms? And do I need to point out that these have been male/female seperated?

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            Little kids are regularly brought into opposite gender restrooms because they only have one parent with them, and can’t be left alone. Is that “sexualizing” a kid or does mommy or daddy just have to pee?

            Same with trans people. Why are you republicans so fucking obsessed with genitals? It’s weird.

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              Bathrooms aren’t locker rooms, but again thats not what I’m even referring to. I’ve taken my daughter into men’s bathroom stalls. I could care less about your genitals. I do care about public displays of stripping, nudity explicitly revolved around sexuality, aimed with children being either the intended audience, or part of the audience. Things I’ve posted here already got removed but I’m pretty sure it’s not too hard to find examples of children watching drag strip shows.

              I vote blue down the line. Get off the internet and realize that it’s not Republicans alone that have issues with pedophilia and the lines being crossed around them.

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        Nudity is also not inherently sexual. You can be naked for reasons outside of having sex, such as cleaning yourself, using the bathroom, changing outfits, sunbathing, relaxing, etc. None of those are inherently sexual.

        Wearing drag is not sexual either. It’s been a thing for centuries, and that’s just the easily identifiable stuff.

        Wearing kink gear is not inherently sexual, though I can understand that you don’t recognize that because it has connotations. But you can wear it without it being a sexual act.

        “Expressing” sexuality is purposefully vague. Is kissing expressing sexuality? Is holding hands? Children do those. That would be an expression of your sexual orientation. You aren’t really making any sense.

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              That’s NSFW content? But I thought it’s just innocent expression, safe enough for kids.

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                Anything that would make your boss go “WTF ARE YOU LOOKING AT??” is NSFW content. You know this. Stop with the dishonest engagement or you’ll grab a ban.

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                  I’m not trying to have a dishonest engagement. You’re right. There’s a lot of NSFW that isn’t sexual in nature.

                  The engagement I was trying to have is that kids are being involved with displays of sexuality. Seeing how it’s not even a conversation to be had here is telling of the community I’m engaging with.

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      I’ll agree someone saying they are are a girl/boy or trans isn’t sexual. Gender isn’t inherently sexual. Someone being gay/straight feels like it’s absolutely sexual. Implied with the"sexual" in homo or heterosexual. You could have nonsexual gay/straight thoughts/feelings I guess, but those are just feelings. Like, ANYONE is allowed to have them regardless of orientation, and honestly sounds like it’s bordering on asexual. Do you have a learning example for that line of thought? Before any angry blowback: I’m not trying to be a dick about this. As far as my understanding of this goes, I don’t follow that comment.