• the_doktor@lemmy.zip
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    9 months ago

    Working in computing for years and this is what I’ve heard

    2000: IPv4 is about to dry up, we really need to start moving to v6!

    2005: OH NO THE SKY IS FALLING IPv4 IS ALMOST GONE! IPv6 IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO OR THE INTERNET WILL DIE!

    2010: WE’RE SERIOUS THIS TIME IPv6 NEEDS TO BE A THING RIGHT NOW! HELP!

    2015: Yeah, okay, NAT has served us well so far, but we can only take it so far, we really need v6 to be the standard in the next 5-10 years or we’re in trouble!

    2020: Um… guys? IPv6? Hello? Anyone? crickets

    2024: IPv6ers are now the vegans of networking

    this may or may not be satire, just laugh if unsure

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      Mine provides a connection, but doesn’t expose ports on v6. So I can access v6 services but can’t self-host any.

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        Huh? With IPv6 you get your own IP address, the ISP doesn’t need to know shit about ports. Your address is not behind a NAT anymore, and ports don’t need to be forwarded.

        Perhaps you mean the ISP set up a firewall that blocks incoming connections? In which case, maybe you can have that firewall disabled? ISP firewalls and “safe browsing” packages are always shit.

        To be honest though there might be some aspect to this I don’t know.

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    “Everyone is using IPv6”

    It’s barely supported. Most providers here “offer IPv6”, but each has a different gotcha to actually using it, if it works at all and they didn’t just route you through hardware that doesn’t know what it is.

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      9 months ago

      What’s “here”? Here in Germany, mine has it for maybe 10 years or so. Basically since launch day.

      And new ISPs only have v6 since all legacy (v4) blocks have been sold years ago.

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    9 months ago

    Just remember we got rid of TLS 1.0 the same thing can be done with IPv4. It’s time for browser makers to put “deprecated technology” warnings on ipv4 sites.

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      IPv4 isn’t depreciated, it’s exhausted. It’s still a key cornerstone of our current internet today.

      We still have “modern” hardware being deployed with piss-poor IPv6 support (if any at all). Until that gets fixed, adoption rates will continue to be low. Adding warnings will only result in annoying people, not driving for improvement.

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    I’m not using it because by and large it’s not implemented properly on consumer hardware, and my ISP doesn’t care if their IPv6 network is broken.

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      I’ve tried multiple times to go IP6 only. I mostly thought, despite my reasonable understanding of IP4, that I was the problem in trying to set it up. I found my dns host was being forgotten multiple times a day, set to something invalid, then it would time out and revert back to the working one. I couldn’t figure out how to connect two computers together for Minecraft.

      Now I hear it was just garbage consumer hardware and software? Fuck me. So much wasted time and effort to say nothing of believing I had turned into a tech idiot.

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        You’re not an idiot. You’re using tools that don’t really do what they claim because it wasn’t considered an important use case.

        IPv6 is great, but we haven’t seen enough pain yet to really drive adoption on the home LAN.

        My solution uses the ISP box to deliver stateless auto conf, and bridging a consumer router. I can’t open ports but at least I get an IP.

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          Do you have an example? Because it works great on openwrt, dd-wrt, pfsense, opnsense, unifi, mikrotik…and then if you’re using the isp equipment it works out of the box.

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    Roses are red, violets are blue, everyone is using IPv6, why aren’t you?

    Roses are red, violets are blue, IPv6 costs extra, and that just won’t do