Voters in swing-state Michigan unimpressed with party’s election critique and say fundamental shift is needed

Vincent Oriedo, a biotechnology scientist, had just such a question. What lessons have been learned, he asked, from Harris’s defeat in this vital swing county in a crucial battleground state that voted for Joe Biden four years ago, and how are the Democrats applying them?

“They did not answer the question,” he said.

“It tells me that they haven’t learned the lessons and they have their inner state of denial. I’ve been paying careful attention to the influencers within the Democratic party. Their discussions have centred around, ‘If only we messaged better, if only we had a better candidate, if only we did all these superficial things.’ There is really a lack of understanding that they are losing their base, losing constituencies they are taking for granted.”

“We have set ourselves up for generational loss because we keep promoting from within leaders that that do not criticise the moneyed interests. They refuse to take a hard look at what Americans actually believe and meet those needs.”

  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
    3·
    12 days ago

    Along this vein, something I don’t see people talking about is that if the current Gaza ceasefire holds Trump will (justifiably or not) take credit for it and at least Michigan will become a solid red state not unlike Florida. Maybe Arizona too if that one popp is to be believed.

    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
      23·
      12 days ago

      Politically supporting Palestine is a terrible move for either party outside the Dearborn area in Michigan. There isn’t a relevant mass of people that actually care, Lemmy is a massive echo chamber of a minority position on this.

      • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        12 days ago

        Politically supporting Palestine is a terrible move for either party outside the Dearborn area in Michigan. There isn’t a relevant mass of people that actually care

        [CITATION NEEDED]

        • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
          22·
          12 days ago

          We just had tons of exit polls. Foreign policy was a primary issue for around 5% of voters. Support for Israel was considered not enough or about right by a significant majority 60%+. You can pick whatever news source you like, the results are within a few points of each other.

          • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            4·
            12 days ago

            And you don’t see the glaring obvious problem with relying on EXIT POLLS, when the primary cause Kamala lost was because a substantial portion of Biden’s voter base simply stayed home?

              • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                3·
                12 days ago

                No, I’m relying on polls that actually poll people who voted for Biden but stayed home in 2024. Among those 19 million people, who exit polls would not capture, a full third of them cited Gaza as their reason for staying home.

                https://www.commondreams.org/news/harris-gaza

                And we’re not talking about a silent majority. We are however talking about a crucial slice of the base that Democrats need if they want any hope of winning a national election.