Is anyone actually surprised by this?

  • Eldritch@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Sad. You can’t address what was said. You don’t even have an interest in looking into it. Hypocritically squealing about propaganda. While spouting it. There’s plenty to criticize the United States on. A lot of the same things you can criticize China on. Well not you. People who thank you critically and engage in good faith however.

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      2 days ago

      I keep asking for evidence and you keep pontificating around the fact that all you have is claims lmao. Sorry for not letting you deflect from the fact that you don’t have evidence.

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        I didn’t make those claims. Sterilization et all. You debunked nothing. Yes some are making fantastic claims with no proof. All I did was state that China was imprisoning many and oppressing them along with other groups. And I provided links to actual people you deny existence of who have been personally impacted. It’s a hypocritical and tone deaf behavior. But also unsurprising.

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          You can’t disprove what I said, because I deliberately refuse to make a coherent claim!

          Check and mate tankies

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          Oh I see, the only people still here are you, me, and two of your alt accounts 😂 Admins can see votes, BTW.

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          And I provided links to actual people you deny existence of who have been personally impacted.

          You didn’t provide links; you provided one link, to Hasan’s hatchet job, which doesn’t even interview any supposed Uyghur victims. But even if you had, testimonies are not hard evidence, as we’ve seen from Yeonmi Park and Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ. The testimonies of “defectors” from US “enemy” states often suss: What’s the deal with defectors?

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            1 day ago

            Why would I throw more Pearls Before swine with a clown shoes bad faith response like that? Your participating in a fallacy again. Attacking the messenger. Not what was said. And funny his reporting was good enough for everyone when he was calling out the United States. Just suddenly he loses all credibility when it’s your team. Odd how that works lol.

            And quite literally in the video they address what you say. The lack of victims crying out doesn’t mean there’s no victims. China won’t let them make a statement or talk to the public. That’s literally the problem. And you know it.

            But I’m going to handle you the same way I handle bad faith economic liberals. Bye Felecia!

            • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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              I don’t know why you put so much effort into your bullshit when no one reads deeply buried comments in a two day old post 🤷

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              Lmao you won’t provide actual proof because we ask for proof before believing you outright?

              Hasan wasn’t the only one criticizing the US and plenty of people only agreed with him because, say it with me: THERE WAS EVIDENCE ON HIS SIDE. I know it might be hard for some of y’all but I don’t consider proof to be when somebody I like says something. A lot of us were saying he and others like middle east eye were laundering their reputations by siding with Gaza to further the US empire’s agenda on other issues, and they’ve proven it.

              China won’t let them make a statement or talk to the public. That’s literally the problem

              Oh, I guess the only reason we learned about Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, and Pinochet’s stadium massacres is how much they amplified the voices of the people they were torturing. No proof would have been available otherwise.

              If you have time to write anime villain speeches you have time to do some actual reading, get over yourself.

              • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                I don’t think they’ll be getting any more upvotes, unless they want to show me more of their alt accounts.