• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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    4 days ago

    “We do not break userspace.” ~ Linus Torvalds

    I would always argue that any distribution which does not prioritize this principle is a hobby project, not a serious distribution for end users.

    Which is fine, hobby projects are good, but they should be labeled accordingly to properly set user expectations.

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      2 days ago

      Linus likes to break driver interfaces every other Tuesday though. Meaning you can get stuck on an old kernel version, depending on your hardware. This happens pretty regularly for ARM based boards for example.

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      “Kernel regressions” was a little bit too generalizing in this meme. Technically drivers that became part of the kernel can also regress, as recently seen by users of Corsair Void wireless headsets (an unpatched 6.13 kernel is panicing once the headset adapter is plugged in).

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        3 days ago

        Does the headphone use bad vendor/product ID? Or how does a wireless dongle without driver panicking a kernel?

        Or is there just a broken driver in the kernel?

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          Broken driver. It now seemingly attempts to read the current battery status, and while doing so literally locks up (not sure what “locking” means in context of a Kernel, but it’s somehow involved).

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            Interesting! Do you have checked the kernel log (there should be a backup from last session somehow iirc) , and do you know the name of the kernel module as well as your kernel version?

            I want to check that code out if I see where it fails exactly

            Or have you documented that issue already somewhere?