The fact that “mommy, what’s a <animal>?” future is becoming a reality should be a fucking emberassment for all of us. Yet no one will pause their fish consumption because “it’s tasty”. The earth is being killed for literal entertainment.
But muh traditional cuisine.
People are too stupid to realize that what worked for us 50 years ago doesnt anymore because there is almost three times as many of us.
Still, every country out there is promoting breeding and having children. Everyone is trying to save our species from extinction as we’re surpassing 10 billion in numbers.
The fact that “mommy, what’s a <animal>?” future is becoming a reality should be a fucking emberassment for all of us.
Well, the future sentient insects might also have some human and animal fossils to study.
I stopped eating fish many years ago and mention ecosystem collapse, overfishing a d bycatch to whomever asks me why (or when I feel like it).
The most I think I’ve done is gotten one friend to reduce their fish consumption.
Humans do not care.
Doesnt matter what we do as individuals when some nations Cough China Cough have entire fleets of state sanctioned and sponsored illegal fishing/trawling poachers.
You can literally watch hundreds of them gathered on the MarineTraffic app and thats only the ones being tracked.
They just go planet to planet like locusts consuming all the resources and then moving on. Whoops, got a little carried away there. But you get the idea.
I thought this story was satire for a second. Now I’m sad 😢
100% accurate - I feel its an unfortunate future we will see during our generation itself
Polar bears have no future with an ice-free arctic.
"mommy, what’s a
<animal>?Farmed fish is fine, it’s wild catch that’s the problem.
Farmed fish are fed fishmeal derived from wild catch.
They also destroy the local ecosystems where the farms are positioned. The excessive consumption we’re accustomed to is the problem. But good luck stopping that because line must go up exponentially.
They’re fed many things, mostly soy pellets, but you’re correct they do need some protein supplements.
That’s like saying solar panels require plastics from oil therefore they’re pointless, we just need to improve the process to minimize wild catch inputs.
I’m sorry this argument is utterly stupid, by this logic we shouldn’t grow vegetables either.
This is the kind of quick talking points some PR intern throws together overnight for cheap because his boss needs to pitch against some bill or more likely try to keep the wild quotas high by arguing that their harvest is the actually sustainable model. You need to learn how to read these K-street pitches, or they’ll spin you to believing up is down and good is evil.
Wild catch is fine when quotas are respected
(But they aren’t)
I think we’re past the point where we can do wild catch for most stocks until they’ve had a decade to recover.
Ninety percent are young specimens that arrive without fat reserves and with empty stomachs," she said, and stressed that all samples taken have tested negative for avian influenza.
They fucking starved to death :'(
TL;DR nobody knows. It has happened in smaller numbers but not like this. People think over fishing (but a similar event previously in Brazil with no known cause)
I’m waaaaay out of my waters here, but if I had to take a wild guess: over fishing, changing of chemistry of the oceans do to climate change and yeah rising of median temperature (as we can all feel) of the world … in summary: my guess is human activity.
The higher the temperature the less oxygen in the water
This is what I meant, and in a broader sense, we just leave it at: scientist are baffled and do not know the answer when I think we all know damn well, almost sure it has something to do with human activity and the disruption it causes in nature.
Sounds like a good place to start looking for answers, at the very least.
I’m sorry, small friends. 😔 We have done you wrong.
I studied and lived with these species in Punta Tombo Argentina. Their food source is known to be moving further north. But we also saw these catastrophic events from time to time where the juvies had a super high mortality rate in their first year away
Their food source is known to be moving further north
Why?
That’s the weird part, because usually species will move to poles from climate change related stressors. The waters of coastal Patagonia have had issues with fishery mismanagement so that could explain the depleted stock. I have to talk to the researchers on the project to see if they’re learning more about the movement of the fish
This is so so tragic. 😞
Bill Gates has struck back against linux.
Linus Torvalds was reading from “The C Programming Language” to a group of elementary school kids when his bodyguard whispered the news.
I wonder when global governments wake up and realise they are sawing the branch they sit on, at this rate i shudder when i think of my kids and their future.
There is no global government. The world is highly fragmented. Most countries themselves are highly fragmented. Even some countries that would have you believe otherwise.
Also, we are too used to the concept of superpowers being countries. That’s no longer the case. While countries can still be superpowers, so can corporations. We already have corporations that could fund some of the world’s biggest armed forces, but so far they have had no reason to. This isn’t a new concept either, think back to the way the British Empire colonised/invaded India for example.
Great points. And similarly with the East India Company, those multinationals sit above states. This time it’s not just one—Britain (or the Netherlands, e.g. with the Dutch EIC)—it’s all of them. With BlackRock and Vanguard near the top. With maybe <20 exceptions.
Saying that, it suggests that if there is anything like a global government, it’s comprised of a handful of billionaires and their most loyal servants. If a state doesn’t do what they say, they’ll arrange for you to be sanctioned, bombed, couped, etc.
I agree, i guess i meant to say the governments of the world when i said that, but you articulated important points- corporations are really becoming bigger than governments and thats not good for the future
They already have noticed many decades ago It’s just that profit comes first since the people in charge won’t really feel the worst of the change while currently making bank from lobbying
People ordering seafood are in charge.
In this case I’d rather blame everyone else for their emissions as the complete disappearance of food sources is linked to climate-induced migration of species.
It’s probably both
They already have noticed many decades ago It’s just that profit comes first since the people in charge won’t really feel the worst of the change while currently making bank from lobbying
Indeed. Naomi Klein reports in This Changes Everything (IIRC) that the White House’s own scientific team warned it that climate catastrophe was in it’s way in the 1960s!
Damn, what did microsoft do this time?
Tried to force them to upgrade to windows 11 and the penguins said “we’d rather die!”
And they took that literally…
“Haha nothing to worry about guys” - this thread.
Go vegan. Just go vegan.
I’m all supportive for the reduction of meat consumption, but I believe even collective individual action won’t cut it.
Every little bit matters. Next time it might be 19 instead of 20 of them. That’s a win in my books.
Edit: 1999 instead of 2000 I meant
No!!
Glad to see the most annoying parts of reddit have made it to lemmy. Vegan circlejerks in every thread
I missed the part where this was a circlejerky comment but sure.
vegan btw
The comments here are at the same level of any mainstream platform. You made it lemmy! You are mainstream now!
Why are penguins being stranded on the beach like they’re whales? That’s disturbing to see.
Massive die offs happen all the time. We’re just around to record these things now.
Having said that, seems alarming they were starved. Much to unpack there.
Microsoft strikes again
