Wow that’s actually big difference, thanks for bringing it up!

Good news, though, is that you are free to install Gimp as a native package, and use Flatpaks for the rest.

Yay!

Yay!

Magic is that --force flag you put into your commands (sorry).

Can’t it automatically be renewed?

Right as we speak, the US assists Israel in its genocidal mission to destroy Palestine - one condemned by nearly the entire world. So much for “global benevolent police”.

Sure, there needs to be some updates to ensure UN has what it takes to establish an actually useful peacekeeping force. Guess who’s gonna veto it before anyone else, though, and for what reasons. It’s so so profitable to declare yourself a world police without asking anybody, and ravage any place on Earth on demand.

And this is one of the issues where I can’t reasonably agree to disagree. Covering up for mass murdering hegemon is not an option, whatever said hegemon is.

Cheers, though.

Please clarify, what option do you mean? Flatpaks are supported on any Linux system, it doesn’t matter what distro or hardware. Or if you mean sparing some megabytes - typically yes as well. The smallest amount of memory I’ve seen on a laptop is 32gb, and typically it’s no less than 250gb.

If it’s not present in you distributions’ app store, you can either enable it somewhere or download another app manager like Discover, GNOME Software, or pamac if you’re on Arch.

If installation of some app incurs a few gbs of downloads, it is likely that your system updates packages alongside installing your app. Typical Flatpak app takes 10-150 megabytes.

It would take 1,01gb

Dependencies typically take 5-80 megabytes of space.

Mostly because of detailed and easy permissions, and also because I have other distibutions on my other computers and want my programs to be consistent everywhere - same programs, same version.

Snap is cancer, and what Canonical does is insane.

In any case, it is unlikely someone will make an exclusive Flatpak for what doesn’t work inside Flatpak. But I understand it means a lot for user choice and ability to compile programs they way you want, so I fully support shipping Flatpaks alongside classical packages and source code.

So, bring in security by initiating wars?

My point is, these interventions have never been about democracy, or freedom, or security for that matter. They were about forcibly creating dependent puppet states acting in the economic interest of the US and reinforcing its hegemony, locals be damned. And it’s what every “successful” invasion has provided.

Take something like Chile as an example (it’s a particularly black-and-white one, but there are plenty more). It was a liberal democracy ran by an elected President, who just so happened to be socialist. The reforms he has introduced threatened foreign capital within the nation, including the American one; as a result, CIA has first launched a propaganda campaign, and when this failed, sponsored and armed a coup that led to the instatement of a brutal and bloody authoritarian regime.

Did the country become more democratic? No. Did it become safer? Hell no. But it suddenly became very dependent on and friendly to American capital, which this entire operation was all about.

If we want some real world police, we should extend the scope of the UN Peacekeepers, instead of relying on a country with a hundred year history of arbitrary invasions and covert interventions. We need the peacekeeping force to be globally recognized and supported.

I don’t know why do some people feel their country is entitled to carry world’s justice. It’s not better or more just, it’s just properly defended against retaliation. It is harassment, not policing.

All these applications will never work in flat pack.

They don’t have to! Flatpak doesn’t remove all other ways to install software. But for 95% of use cases, it will do just fine.

Firejail is good, but it only solves sandboxing part of the equation, and there’s so much more to Flatpaks than that. Also, it’s more painful to configure and is more sysadmin-oriented.

F I N A L L Y

Now tell me it supports IPv6 and I’ll be the happiest man alive

Permissions are also set by the packages developers

True, and I don’t think it is healthy not to let them to. But it would be nice to either have some vetting on the matter, or ask user about which permissions they agree for when they install Flatpak.

Appeared 2 years ago

Ого, то есть примерно когда я сам здесь очутился. Никогда не слышал о ру инстансах, хоть и искал. Теперь, кажется, нашёл)

Берёте человечка на борт? Не обещаю сделать Рекабу главным инстансом, но всегда полезно быть по обе стороны Чебурнета, а то последнее время с забугорными беды бывают.

I’m not saying Flatpak is perfect, but it appears to be the best we have.

I absolutely agree more needs to be done to explain permissions and have sane defaults. Flatseal in particular could introduce more warnings, and this is where non-technical users set their permissions.

In my experience, most Flatpaks do not request full home folder access by default, and making Flatpak access everything everywhere typically requires user intervention.

Native apps, meanwhile, just run with full system-wide access; I get it that they’re more vetted and more properly updated, but this is an unhealthy and insecure arrangement.

Fair criticism!

However, the extent of the damage is limited by flatpak and whatever permissions you have set, and, if I understand it correctly, you cannot attack one flatpak through the other unless they share access to some files.

Also, I haven’t seen this kind of attack in the wild (maybe I’m not informed enough?) as opposed to rogue maintainers injecting malware into packages.

On an unrelated note: apparently, there is finally some Russian Lemmy instance? That’s a welcome change.

I don’t mind other solutions, as long as they have the key features Flatpak offers, namely:

• Being open-source
• Having app permission system
• Having bundled dependencies
• Integrating decently with the system

Times are changing, and memory constraints for most programs are generally not relevant anymore.

Thanks for the input! Yes, there are still certain issues with Flatpaks (for me it was aforementioned VPNs which also don’t work through Distrobox, and it would be quite odd anyway). But overall, they manage most apps well, just as you say :)