Yes but yokels in the flyover states will say no, so you’re not allowed to do this.

Easy. They got enough progressives to care about it to not vote, and now that wedge issue is done and they have total control over the government because somehow, Israels actions are the fault of Democrats.

Simple as that.

Precisely. They almost solely are responsible for him. The news companies wagged the dog for clicks.

You think the guy who could never form a single coalition to pass any major legislation is a good choice?

No offense but that’s dumb.

Bernie has good politics but he’s a horrendous politician. Standing off to the side saying the right things, and never getting any legislation passed, is not being a leader. Part of politics is getting people on your side.

He tried to come in and tell everyone he wanted to be the team captain, while never playing a single inning for the team he was wanting to lead.

Are you shocked that people who played on that team didn’t want him to be the leader?

I totally blame the media for a massive part of it. Biden has one bad debate and the news talked about it for over a month.

trump literally did the handjob dance and stood there doing nothing for 40 minutes, and it was out of the news cycle in 24 hours.

The news is why he got elected both times. Which is why I refuse to watch news anymore.

Two extremely qualified women both were defeated by the worst candidate in our countries history.

I love AOC and her policies, but this country has proven it’ll vote for literally the worst encapsulation of boomer greed than vote for a capable and competent woman. Twice.

The Democrats are morons if they pick a woman to run next time. Simple as that.

Let AOC kick Schumer out and take his senate seat. She would be much more effective there.

He had one bad choice and one meh choice. There was plenty of progressive legislation in Harris’ platform. These people didn’t get 100% of what they wanted and sat home like entitled children.

I voted against the fascist, thank you very much.

Apparently, that was too hard for you.

I hope that you enjoy your moral superiority as you’re rounded up by trumps gestapo.

Precisely.

You want people to push for progressivism by… doing nothing.

Congratulations. You’re a slactivist. This is why people in the democratic party refuse to take progressives seriously.

You don’t get 100% of what you want, you huff your little noses, and take your ball and go home. Then you have the gall to snipe from the sidelines when you have no skin in the game.

People that act this way are just as guilty of our current situation as trump supporters.

I just skim stories and catch a general idea of what’s going on for this reason.

‘Is this something I can actionably do something about? No? Then don’t worry about it.’

Yep. Israel pushed disinfo, Russia pushed disinfo, and the republicans all pushed the same shit, and people bought it hook, line, and sinker.

You’re good man I’m having a vent fest about it too, haha.

It’s just frustrating. It’s usually people from privilege who do this, then they spread this shit and other people fucking buy it.

It’s infuriating.

Broooo I know it’s like… Fuck dude you need smacked across the mouth for talking like that.

How fucking lazy some of these people are, you know?

Exactly. I’m very liberal, but I’m also a pragmatist. If we get half of the shit we want, lets fucking go. The idea that every single promise Biden had given that wasn’t fulfilled was a reason to sit out was fucking stupid. The biggest one was student loan forgiveness. He did something, and the fucking republicans played lawfare to stop it and even then he still forgave almost a quarter of a billion dollars in loan debt.

Like…

How fucking entitled, and spoiled are you, that you let perfect be the enemy of good? Get out of your privileged bubble, and actually pull the fucking dog sled with everyone, instead of standing off to the side preaching about how you’d do it better.

Oh I fully believe this. There is no progressive news sources in the US.

I voted for Clinton and Harris enthusiastically. Are they perfect candidates? No. No candidate is perfect, and that’s the problem with online leftists. Seemingly, they will only get off the couch when they have 100% of what they want. This is also why the party doesn’t court leftists in this country. Because even if they give them 80% of what they want, that 20% will keep them on the internet complaining they’re not getting that 20.

That’s not true at all. Online liberals would have found some other thing to crucify Harris over. The idea that some of you guys didn’t support a candidate because of the actions of a foreign government, is simply baffling to me.

He never looked unbeatable. The US news refused to do any due diligence on his plans. Literally every major economist (or something like that) endorsed Harris.

Once again, the news media refuses to take responsibility for the fucking mess they helped create.