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  • It’s not clear what goalpost you mean, exactly. Any consequentialism being bad, or pure consequentialism?

    I was pretty careful not to set a goalpost of any kind on pure consequentialism, if you go back and double check, exactly because it has well-known problems.

    Go bootlick a billionaire if you want to but don’t come here try to convince anyone that they are in any way good people

    Don’t flatter them with the evil genius shit either. That’s how they want to be seen.


  • The fact I know what deontology means should suggest that I’ve heard of the trolley problem.

    Also, leg[al] isn’t moral!

    Correct. But, you’d have to figure out an alternative system of rules that he broke. And it may very well capture people you like as well. Most people would have no problem killing a technical standard for a very large sum of money.

    I can’t say it’s impossible to do reasonably, but I can’t say it is possible either. Most people just acknowledge that sometimes the ends justify the means.


  • People also say he’s putting microchips in the COVID vaccines, so pardon me if I’m skeptical about all that. It appears to be a philanthropic project. Maybe not the best possible one, but one nonetheless.

    good should be done for the improvement of humanity and bad people should be held accountable for their crimes.

    Wouldn’t the “holding accountable” itself involve some bad actions?


  • Hey, it’s a pretty popular ethical philosophy. Generally, people like to leave caveats, but fully rejecting all consequentialism is similarly uncommon.

    If you’re going to be a pure deontologist, you have to pick out single actions he’s done that went against your chosen rules. One hurdle there is that most of his activities were legal in their time or place. Another is that seeking personal profit is almost universal and often commended.


  • Almost certainly, he’s saved far more lives than he’s taken at this point.

    He scalped Western technophobes pretty hard and tried to hobble a lot of early FOSS efforts (although we came through in the end). Few of the idiots buying Windows XP licences needed that money more then the recipients of the Gates fund, though, so if that’s his lifetime transaction it’s based.

    so what’s your threshold for being a scumbag piece of shit?

    It’s not clear good people exist at all.