This is either bait, or you need to get the police involved for the kids and find somewhere safer/saner to live yourself.

We’d love to. You know we get it first and in higher concentration, right? Not to mention all our shit that burns down in the process.

And I mean, it’s from the climate change that you helped make as well…

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It’s not clear what goalpost you mean, exactly. Any consequentialism being bad, or pure consequentialism?

I was pretty careful not to set a goalpost of any kind on pure consequentialism, if you go back and double check, exactly because it has well-known problems.

Go bootlick a billionaire if you want to but don’t come here try to convince anyone that they are in any way good people

Don’t flatter them with the evil genius shit either. That’s how they want to be seen.

The fact I know what deontology means should suggest that I’ve heard of the trolley problem.

Also, leg[al] isn’t moral!

Correct. But, you’d have to figure out an alternative system of rules that he broke. And it may very well capture people you like as well. Most people would have no problem killing a technical standard for a very large sum of money.

I can’t say it’s impossible to do reasonably, but I can’t say it is possible either. Most people just acknowledge that sometimes the ends justify the means.

People also say he’s putting microchips in the COVID vaccines, so pardon me if I’m skeptical about all that. It appears to be a philanthropic project. Maybe not the best possible one, but one nonetheless.

good should be done for the improvement of humanity and bad people should be held accountable for their crimes.

Wouldn’t the “holding accountable” itself involve some bad actions?

Hey, it’s a pretty popular ethical philosophy. Generally, people like to leave caveats, but fully rejecting all consequentialism is similarly uncommon.

If you’re going to be a pure deontologist, you have to pick out single actions he’s done that went against your chosen rules. One hurdle there is that most of his activities were legal in their time or place. Another is that seeking personal profit is almost universal and often commended.

Almost certainly, he’s saved far more lives than he’s taken at this point.

He scalped Western technophobes pretty hard and tried to hobble a lot of early FOSS efforts (although we came through in the end). Few of the idiots buying Windows XP licences needed that money more then the recipients of the Gates fund, though, so if that’s his lifetime transaction it’s based.

so what’s your threshold for being a scumbag piece of shit?

It’s not clear good people exist at all.

“Whoops, we pinky swear we’ll investigate ourselves for that. Anyway, since they’re all gone now, we can go back to normal relations with the rest of the world, right?”

Ah yes, you could say it’s a camp where they can be nicely concentrated.

I’m probably one of the people OP is thinking of. Before my time he was apparently a massive bastard, and he even admits to it. These days, as far as I can tell, he rescues Africans and doesn’t do much else. Every other famous billionaire is higher on my shit list.

Yeah, if you’re looking at food in China, there’s a real argument to avoid anything artificial-seeming because of incidents like this. I’m told it’s part of the reason why wet markets are so popular - there’s no doubt if your meat is real and unadulterated when you just saw it running around.

It actually sounds like they were straight up using normal paint as food colouring.

Sometimes, or sometimes they get a pass based on connections. Those aren’t mutually exclusive, either; scapegoats have long been a useful political tool.

Yeah, it’s more like they’re fueling sexism, and are gobsmacked that anyone dares to be bothered by that.

Time to find a good counterfeit.

That was only after the eventual direct attack on Iranian soil, and I don’t know if it’s even double digit missiles that have managed to land in return. Some Israelis are still stunned, but only because of how deep in a bubble they are.

Iran also opted not to close the Strait of Hormuz, even now, although apparently they were making preparations.

I can’t really confirm it’s complete disinformation, but they always post stories that case Ukraine in a positive light and a lot of them are never confirmed or repeated elsewhere.

They are at war for their existence as a nation, so some of that is to be expected.

Yeah. What’s their game here, basically? They’re hella brutal in most (all?) other ways.

Has he actually given up on the Metaverse thing at this point?