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Hey leave Sand-dam Hurzen out of this!

Can’t recommend enough. A fantastic sport to pick up for after work if you’re working in IT or so, clears your mind, good for the shoulders and the back, and calms you down.

No, they don’t federate any more at all I think.

his proposal had quite the impact, they say.

they are still legal

People?!

Happens all the time, it’s why they recommend you don’t practice ballet on slippery roofs.

Oh I dis not know that! Interesting! Thanks for the correction.

I mean even if it repeats “the Twitter mistake” that’d still be another 13-14 years to go. Who knows where short-form social media will be conceptually in that time and whether any competition in the space is even still relevant.

Yes and no. It was already rejection at the selection stage back then, but you luckily never had to. You got one from your ISP, or your university, and you just used that. Sure, some techies had their own mail server or so but it’s just mail, just use what you got was enough for the vast vast majority of people.

You’ve got mail!

Honestly? I needed a Gmail account anyways, so I might as well use that. Same hammer-analogy, not going to buy a new one while mine is working.

Wasn’t like the US people couldn’t have trivially prevented that by actually going to the votes instead of not voting. At some point it’s willful on behalf of the people. 🤷

Yeah that’s why I’m on Bluesky. Twitter was always just a “check whether company XYZ said something about their servers being down”-place.

And Bluesky has a lot of these companies now. A few government places OTOH are on Mastodon. I have both, but both exclusively in this capacity.

I just loooove how pppl believe that whether something has VC-funding or is federated has any effect at all on how people pick software and systems to use.

I mean, users don’t even not care, because “caring vs not caring” assumes that the metric they can care about or not mentally exists in their context for judging a decision. Which it does not. Which is a very important part so many software designers of user-facing software forget, to users a short-form posting instance is a tool. A hammer. You use the one you got. Once it becomes defunct, you get a new one. You pick one that all your friends use, because hey, must be great if everyone uses it. Does it have some downsides? Maybe, but frankly it’s a hammer who cares?!

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I tried to join Beehaw simply because a reddit community I was actively part in went there.

I got told that’s not a valid reason to join, and that further applications from me would be ignored. I mean… okay? Sure… guess I’m no longer part of that community.

Which AFAIK isn’t a standard, so… 🤷

Probably not. Currently it seems on track that you’re always first on their main instance. If you’re technically inclined you could then start hosting a federated part yourself (or joining one), but this does not change that the actual entry experience is exactly the same as on Twitter, hence why transition is so insanely smooth and painless.

People who genuinely think like this (as in, that users going to Bluesky is somehow bad, surprising or something only stupid people do) are the very reason systems such as Mastodon cannot work. And sadly they naturally pervade such systems, at a development, administration and user level.

Some potential solutions: Governments could decide corporations must have actual named people in charge, ID by say passports or drivers licenses validated in person at an office to be issued an LLC or whatever.

I think the forced “this person is ultimately to be held accountable” would help a lot.

They can break it up if they want, based on company size in that country. Have responsible persons for departments and so on. But only in addition to the one at the top, so now they are jointly held accountable, each 50%, basically.

These people as you say need to be verified with ID and all, and on top of that need to have their finances registered as, like I said, they’re responsible. If the company fucked it up, they fucked it up.

Yeah there’s comments are from the US it seems where there lack of regulations have resulted in an… advanced pricing structure. To put it mildly.