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  • So far, the best system we’ve come up with as a species is heavily regulated capitalism with strong social safety nets

    And for quite a lot of human history the best system we had come up with was Feudalism, until we started doing something better.

    Just because Capitalism is the best we’ve come up with so far doesn’t mean we should just accept it, or that 1000 years from now people won’t look at the Capitalism with the same disdain we look at Feudalism.







  • CileTheSane@lemmy.catoMemes@lemmy.mlRent is Robbery
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    11 months ago

    So you’re well aware that alternative investment options exist and all this “what am I to do? Rental housing is the only thing to invest in” is just nonsense.

    clearly in this thread it’s evil

    Yup. Just like if someone invested in diamonds or gold, people upset about it wouldn’t give them a pass if they said “I just wanted a tangible investment”.

    You complained about spending 30 years making someone else rich, and now you’re retired off the back of your renter making you rich. Your example of a “bad year” was $2500 profit after paying for repairs from a tornado, for a property you don’t need or use.



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    11 months ago

    Housing shouldn’t be an investment.

    “I bought a limited resource people require for survival, what should I have done?”

    Not do that. I have plenty of investments, none of them are houses. This feigned ignorance of “what else am I allowed to invest in?” Doesn’t work. Go talk to an advisor, they’ll provide you with plenty of options.


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    11 months ago

    I personally believe that asking the details of why a person believes something is EXACTLY the right way to have a discussion because if you just scream at the person and say you’re wrong, that person will just dig in and solidify his opinion.

    Asking someone

    So they should buy the house, pay the mortgage and let you stay there for free?

    Is not an attempt at understanding why a person believes something. It’s the passive aggressive equivalent to yelling at them that they’re wrong.

    I am not surprised in the slightest that when pushed to actually define and defend your stance you respond with

    I’m not going to argue with you anymore


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    11 months ago

    First of all, people are able to state their opinions on a subject without first having to ask questions like:

    So they should buy the house, pay the mortgage and let you stay there for free?

    This is exactly what I mean by “just asking questions” being disingenuous at best. That’s not a questions someone asks a person if they are legitimately “wanting to understand the other person’s side”.

    How can I agree or disagree if I don’t even know the rules

    What rules? They made pretty clear statements about their position (unlike you). You can ask them clarifying questions and state your own position on the subject at the same time.

    I don’t care for arguments that place individuals in the same category as large corporations.

    It’s possible for something to be wrong for both individuals and corporations to take part in. If someone is saying “slavery is bad” I don’t need to hear some bullshit “Corporations who use slave labour are worse than individuals who use slave labour. Leave the individuals alone!” Both are bad. Corporations are worse, yes, but that doesn’t give individuals a free pass. Both need to be stopped.

    There are heroes and villains in every industry.

    Yes, and the role of government should be to step in and stop the villains.

    I did not set up the rules, I’m just following them. In the united states this is unfortunately how it functions.

    That is exactly the point. This is how it functions and it shouldn’t be. That doesn’t change by people shrugging their shoulders and saying “it is what it is.” It changes by people making noise about it until the rules are changed.


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    11 months ago

    First of all: “Just asking questions” is not an argument. It’s disingenuous at best and done by people who have a strong opinion on a subject but can’t articulate why. They feel they are correct and think they are cleverly avoiding having to actually defend their stance by never actually stating what it is.

    And why shouldn’t they buy the house?

    Because the necessities of survival shouldn’t be a source of profit. Companies shouldn’t be allowed to purchase all the air or water and force you to buy it from them for inflated prices because “what else are you going to do?” In the same why they shouldn’t be allowed to buy all the property and force you to rent from them because “where else are you going to stay?”

    What’s the limit on houses?

    That’s exactly the problem. There should be a limit on houses, and we’re seeing the consequences of a limit not existing. People are calling for a limit to exist.

    Personally I think it should be illegal to rent out a property you don’t live on, and any property you own beyond the first should be taxed at a much higher rate.


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    11 months ago

    I live comfortably in a 2 story, 3 bedroom that I own and I’m able to put enough into savings each month that I’m easily able to afford any emergencies that come up.

    Looking at local prices, I would not be able to rent of a much smaller unit where I live.

    The actual ‘need’ for rent could be easily covered by people renting out their basement suite or having a boarder. There’s no benefit to society for allowing people to purchase properties they don’t live on just to profit off someone else’s rent.