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  • The part about our history you’re forgetting is that we never, through any of that, gleefully elected a guy that has made it abundantly clear he doesn’t give a fuck about democracy and will work to subvert or destroy it if it doesn’t suit him.

    This is new territory.

    And we’re about to experience the deconstruction of things that will be very difficult to build back.

    Your point is that we’ve been around for a few hundred years, so we can bounce back. But history would like to point out that nations that were around much longer than us have ceased to exist many times over.

    I wish I had your optimism.



  • You probably don’t.

    Even with a contentious subject like abortion. That’s a disagreement about a specific topic. You can reach a middle ground. It’s one of many topics to debate over and forge legislation regarding.

    But the majority gleefully electing a guy that effectively looked us all straight in the face and said “I don’t give a fuck about democracy and will attempt to subvert or overthrow it if it doesn’t suit me”? Yeah, there’s really no recovering from that. At least not without a long period of serious decline and suffering, followed by lots of struggle and death to earn back what we lose.

    We disrespected the shit out of our democracy and everyone that fought/died for it. There’s no way that ends well.


  • Yes.

    In my opinion we’ve already passed the point of no return and recent events have just confirmed as much.

    This isn’t about having differing political opinions. A profoundly unfit, amoral criminal with a very public history of being an awful person came along and started spewing extremely dangerous rhetoric, some of which is almost verbatim to Hitler’s, and our society ate it up and made him president in 2016. This man, who leads a party who courts racists/sexists for their votes, utterly failed his tenure as president, bombing his response to the greatest American crisis since WW2 and presiding over the highest White House administration turnover rate in U.S. history. Since then he has become a convicted felon, an adjudicated rapist, and illegally attempted to overturn our democratic institutions by various means.

    This go around the American people were presented with a choice between that person, who only managed to make himself appear even more unfit during this campaign season, openly stated he is anti-worker rights, and is directly responsible for removing women’s federally protected right to bodily autonomy, or a successful prosecutor with a doctorate in law, backed by a party that, despite misinformation, has a voting history proving they vote in favor of the average American FAR more than the opposing party…and Americans STILL managed to drop the ball and go with the CLEARLY worse choice. And when I say clearly, I’m talking about by every conceivable metric that exists in reality.

    At this point it isn’t about Democrat vs Republican or Trump vs Kamala or Biden. It’s about the American people. We are not a society of intelligent voters. We have failed our responsibility as citizens in a democracy by being too lazy to learn and by allowing misinformation to mislead us and emotions to cloud our better judgement. We are not engaged in responsible involvement in our own politics. We gleefully elect people that only offer hate and fear and lies, despite how hard they try to prove how awful they are to us. And THAT is why we have passed the point of no return. If you remove the parties and the politicians out of the equation, you still have a society that fails at responsibly preserving a democracy. That gives in to hateful rhetoric and fear. That wants to get the better of the “others”.

    There is no happy ending for a society like that. A society like that can only decline. This was not an election about one political ideology against another. It was an election about morality. And we categorically failed that moral test.

    There are excuses. We’ve been through a lot. Lots of people are desperate. Desperate people make bad decisions. But the bottom line is we don’t live in a society with a majority of responsible adults making responsible, fact-based decisions about the most important things.

    In the arc of history we may end up reaching a better place, but personally I believe we’re embarking on a decline that will most likely last the rest of our lives. It simply isn’t a problem that can be fixed short term. And we’re about to experience a sort of deconstruction. A deconstruction of norms. A deconstruction of institutions. A deconstruction of education and safety nets. And those things take a lot of blood, sweat, and tears to build back, because it’s easier to destroy than it is to create or maintain.

    Buckle up. Try to find happiness where you can. It’s probably not getting better anytime soon.






  • Humans aren’t intrinsically anything

    I entreat you to lookup the word “instinct” in the dictionary.

    It is in our nature to consume. The more we use our unique brains to invent more things, the more we consume and the more waste we produce. We literally cannot reach a zero waste scenario unless we lost our capacity to be sentient and creative and literally lived as animals again.

    The moment our brains started doing something more than what animal brains do is the moment this planet was doomed. We literally cannot do anything other than quickly, or maybe hopefully slowly, exhaust all the resources of this planet. And right now it looks like we’re going full steam ahead on the fast track option.


  • Totally agree.

    The bottom line is Democrats aren’t going to win a misinformation campaign against Republicans because of the reasons you brought up and because they simply aren’t as amoral as Republicans are.

    It really is up to Americans to be mature, informed, responsible voters who aren’t susceptible to misinformation. And that simply isn’t going to happen. Especially not now that we’ve given total control to a party that ran on deconstructing the public education system.

    Realistically, from my personal, pessimistic point of view…we’re completely and utterly fucked and will probably see a steady decline in this country for the remainder of our lives.


  • Surely, this messaging is going to help your party from being seen as the out-of-touch party of “coastal elites”

    I’m not a politician. I don’t care about messaging. I’m stating the obvious. I don’t care how many feelings get hurt.

    People hold the Democrat party to this extremely high standard and think it’s their job to woo and coerce people to vote for them. That’s horse shit. It’s American’s responsibility to be good citizens and inform themselves responsibly and be adults by making intelligent decisions based on actual data.

    And anyone that’s actually done that knows that the better decision for average Americans is FAR AND AWAY the Democrat party.

    They fight and organize for capital, not the working class

    Their voting history proves you wrong.

    I’m tired of people expecting Democrats to be picture perfect while Republicans prance around talking about immigrants eating people’s pets and not being sexually attracted to M&M’s anymore because liberals ruined that for them and winning fucking elections by doing so.

    It’s fucking pathetic and it’s American’s fault for being stupid. Period.



  • If we can fix another planet, we can fix our own.

    Who said we’re fixing another planet? If we’re lucky, we’ll be able to move to another one and destroy that one, then move on from there.

    probably we could fix our planet. But we cant, because of money.

    It’s not just money. We are inherently destructive. Our “big” brains make it so we can never be 100% compatible with our natural world the way animals are. We will ALWAYS produce waste. Right now the amount of waste we produce is obscene and entirely unstustainable. The best you can hope for is a future where education and technology allow us to produce far less waste. But we will always produce waste. We will never achieve 100% recycling capabilities. We will absolutely either destroy this planet via pollution or by using up all its available resources. We’ve made countless species go extinct and are continuing to do so. We are a virus on the face of the universe.

    Our destiny is to either migrate (spread) to other planets or go extinct. That is the curse of sentience.