I have read a number of things, over the years, discussing essentially this. They were always recalling historical movements to make their case, not so data driven. Thank you for the paper.

correct, and in those cases they saw that there was an important group within the movement they could have a diplomatic out with, and they decided to take it before it was all violence

There was that guy in colorado who shot a mass shooter, then the cops killed him

Yes, they leave out that the protests work because they are displays of very large amounts of people who, while peaceful now, they have reason to believe can become violent. Without being backed by the threat of violence, or seen as a diplomatic out to a movement that is, otherwise, violent, they don’t really work.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was enough to not matter if some aren’t

It is like vegan hate. For every vegan that aggressively pushes their ethics on others, there are like 1000 people who want nothing more than to do something to offend vegans.

yeah, the waltons are pissed about the handling of the tariffs

Anytime you discuss a single action of a person, you must also bring up every bad thing they have done, or you are “covering” for them. There are a 1000 articles posted about Newsom that have comment sections that lay all that shit out, repeatedly. Everyone knows he is corrupt, and sadistically trying to make being homeless criminal, and more.

We aren’t discussing that in this thread. At the moment we are specifically discussing him being the only congress member to be actively standing up to a far more corrupt president. Post one of the million articles about the awful shit Newsom has done, and then talk about it there.

In real life if you see people having a discussion about something, would you then butt in with something off topic, just because it relates to an aspect of their conversation?

oh, certainly not out of the question. However their own playbook determines the cultural divide between them and others is at an impasse, and they will have to make people conform, or get rid of them.

Yeah, they want a civil war

oh boy would this trigger his delusions

You can call anything terrorism at this point.

you know, except a white, right wing, man, who commits mass murder, for ideological reasons

Those are lone wolves, and tragically mentally ill, of course

So are you, have fun!

I wasn’t correcting you, or saying otherwise. Just condensed version of what you said, and adding that it just makes the whole idea flawed from the outset.

You took an analogy literally, and you don’t seem to understand the difference between accepting something, and knowing keyboard warrior behavior is useless.

it was pretty fucking obvious, maybe it was not the element here that was dumb.

The changes they pick up on are responses to a lot of different things, not just lying, so even the premise is fatally flawed.

What exactly are you trying to say?

That your online rage is completely impotent and pointless

Sometimes they want specific whites too, or they aren’t white, and have other racist desires.

It is weird when you criticize one thing and people start saying shit like this, as if your critique of the one thing, is an endorsement of everything else.