many voters who supported Trump did so primarily because of economic concerns

That doesn’t conflict with my statement at all. They don’t actually care about what happens to other people, specifically immigrants in this case. What they say completely conflicts with their actions.

Most Americans are perfectly happy to endorse a domestic genocide if they think it will slightly improve their personal lives/wallets. Or they’re just totally indifferent, which isn’t much better in my opinion.

I think most Americans are liars at this point. Sure they might say they don’t want people rounded up into concentration camps, but they sure as fuck will vote for it when no one is looking.

Please don’t nominate him for anything else. He resigned from Congress. This could be incredibly hilarious.

Edit: and if any Democrat on the ethics committee doesn’t leak the report they should all be primaried and removed from their posts.

this doesn’t consider the people who did not vote.

If you chose not to vote or vote for 3rd party, you supported Trump.

Well, it’s either that or the cruise ship …

Unless they’re planning to somehow go after people who had their loans forgiven already, seems a dead issue.

I can absolutely see them trying to claw back debt that has already been forgiven. Hell, they’ll probably try and get people to pay all the waived interest from the pandemic.

A genuine populist revolution will easily be able to pull working class voters from all walks of life

I just don’t think this is possible with a 3rd party candidate in our system. You’ll never pull GOP voters this way, which means you have to pull a shitload of Democratic voters all in the same direction.

I wholly agree with you the issues with the DNC, but there’s a solution: we show up in the primaries. The DNC is corrupt, but they aren’t flipping primary votes. We can absolutely elect different people to run the party with enough numbers. And if you can’t get enough people to do that with a genuine populist message, how are you ever going to start an entirely new party and convince people to show up?

I’m not telling you “but Trump”. I’m telling you the outcome that you said was undesirable IS the desired outcome in this situation. All of Harris’ qualifications and platform are wholly irrelevant when comparing her to Trump as to who is the better pick for governance.

Fuck fuck fuckety fuck.

Okay. Then you gotta convince every Democrat and then some to agree to leave the party AND join the same new one in order to beat the GOP in a FPTP system. Or your goal is to dilute the power of the corrupt Democrats instead of eliminating them.

Weeding a single corrupt party is easier than creating an entirely new party while simultaneously competing with two existing corrupt parties in a FPTP system.

Not really a desirable outcome.

When Trump is literally the only other option, yes it is. It’s incredibly desirable.

Passive voice because you’re ignorant. Who will place people in concentration camps?

Listen, just because you haven’t paid attention to the things the Trump team has published and said doesn’t mean you need to call someone else ignorant.

Theyve already said they plan to use local agencies to assist and anyone refusing would lose their federal funding. There are PLENTY of Sheriffs that would jump on the chance to round people up. Your assumption that the feds, ICE, and CBP won’t play ball is completely unfounded. They have people already lined up for positions they need to make this happen. That’s on top of Trump’s former campaign manager literally saying they want assistance from their followers as “shock troops” for this as well. They’ve begun targeting sites for new detention centers near large cities. All of this shit you should already know Mr Expert.

You want to make the argument that theyre too incompetent to be successful, fine. That’s probably our biggest safety net right now. But acting like it’s not possible or that they don’t have explicit plans is asinine.

I don’t think Wikler is a bad pick. He’s done some good work in Wisconsin, I’ve been on a lot of organizing calls with him.

My main concern would be that he’s not aggressive enough. I want someone who’s going to go after Republicans with every ounce of force possible. I don’t know if Ben is that guy.

This is how EVERY conservative wins.

Absolutely. Just don’t use that word. The propaganda is so goddamn ingrained in the American psyche we might as well just call it something else and try to bypass that fight.

And he had a bunch of people telling him no along the way. I don’t know why people aren’t getting this. There. Are. No. Guard. Rails. This. Time.

He already tried a bunch of the shit people are saying he would never do. Now he can do them. Good fucking job.

Like how do you actually make this work?

There’s pretty much one solution to this problem, as the Germans found out. These people will be placed in concentration camps while they languish and slowly die.

Yeah the only party here that should have any say whatsoever is the Sandy Hook families. If they want to forgo what Jones owes them in order to give the sale to The Onion that should 100% be their call. They OWN Jones’ shit.

Get adopted by a ninjutsu master, train your entire childhood, then compete in the kumite for your family’s honor. Watch out for Chong Li, that fucker cheats.

I just need someone to disprove the “bullet ballot” thing I saw. I have no idea if their numbers are real, but if Trump did actually get hundreds of thousands of votes in swing states where he’s literally the only candidate selected I want that shit looked into at the very least. That’s waaaaay outside the norm.

I’m being very careful not to go full dumbass like Trump voters in 2020 but I also think the GOP has a significantly greater propensity to cheat based on, well everything. That feels fair.