Shareholder Blight?

What term would you prefer?

I’ve never had a problem, always enjoyed my time interacting there 🤷

Solidarity with authoritarians has a long and sordid history of betrayal and being lined up against walls in the end. Anarchists have had to learn that lesson in the most brutal of ways.

It’s not compatible with apps yet, unfortunately.

There’s a difference between being a socialist, and blindly defending authoritarian regimes that claim they are socialist. Those instances earned their reputation for a reason.

You’ll miss out on the Beehaw community on Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works, since Beehaw defederated from them

Lemmy.cafe is a nice general purpose instance that only defederates from the most extreme instances, while still giving access to Beehaw and all other instances. It’s still small too, so it’d more effectively spread the load compared to creating an account on sh.itjust.works, which already has a pretty huge user count.

I thought I tried every weather app on F droid, but never saw Breezy. Extremely impressed with it, easily the best on F-droid, and better than 99% of apps on the playstore.

I think the Weawow app (closed source and playstore/aurora only)still edges it out, but only slightly. Heavily considering switching to Breezy.

Thanks for the recommendation!

What thing are you referring to?

Yes, it’s unfortunate it didn’t have a positive effect long term due to being coopted. :(

As people are going to continue to use twitter style websites until they fall out of fashion, I figure its best if that twitter-like is at least not controlled by people who can go rogue and do severe damage to society, such as what happened with twitter.

We realistically can’t ban them, we can only mitigate the bad. Personally I don’t use twitter style social media, only Lemmy.

Enshittification is specifically how something inevitably gets worse and more anti-user due to pressures from capitalism/shareholders/profit incentive.

Rot, at least in my mind, is not that specific. It could mean the codebase is not well maintained and slowly failing, as an example.

It’s unlikely it’ll go back in the bottle, and that style of social media is capable of facilitating positive social change (Arab spring as one example) that may not have been possible without it.

There’s a quote from Eric S. Raymond about the issue of getting people to switch to something better (in this case the OS Plan 9) if there’s already something that’s fulfilling the need just enough that it becomes difficult to get anyone to move.

it looks like Plan 9 failed simply because it fell short of being a compelling enough improvement on Unix to displace its ancestor. Compared to Plan 9, Unix creaks and clanks and has obvious rust spots, but it gets the job done well enough to hold its position. There is a lesson here for ambitious system architects: the most dangerous enemy of a better solution is an existing codebase that is just good enough.

The fear now is that people will just switch to Bluesky until it becomes like Twitter, and it’s not a guarantee that Mastodon will be next in line. It could be another closed service that’s primed to take its place, and thus, the cycle continues.

Hmm… That could be an issue, you’re right.

If it does get that bad, we’d gave to act more defensively by only federating with instances that have reviewed sign-ups and have received an endorsement on fediseer.

That would result in a more isolated experience, but if that’s the only way to combat it, then we’ll have to shift with the needs of the moment to keep it mostly humans we’re interacting with, and to make the moderation workload manageable.

The Fediseer project from @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com helps prevent bot farms from proliferating, as new servers require an endorsement from an already trusted instance to become ‘legit’. And they can be marked as untrustworthy as well, causing them to be defederated fairly quickly, limiting its reach.

We also have a MUCH higher moderator to user ratio compared to corpo sites, with a range between 100 to 2,500 users per mod depending on instance, Vs. 250,000 users per mod on sites like twitter, so we can more adequately spot and deal with spam on the network.

Absolutely incredible breakdown of the problem. In addition to twitter, I strongly suspect Reddit is infested with a similar increase in bot accounts, which would explain how a sub I used to moderate there has some of the highest page visits its ever had, yet its actual user engagement hasn’t changed at all, or even gone down.

Corporate websites, who have a financial incentive to allow the bots, have become completely unusable. The difference in interaction on Lemmy is incredibly stark, which goes to show that the fediverse seems to be far more resilient against bots since we can defederate from an instance that gets taken over, like cutting off an infected limb to stop the spread.

Do Lemmy and Mastodon really compete with each other when they’re attempting to cater to different needs? They are all part of the greater Fediverse, showing the growth of the overall community.

No one is actually fighting, its just showing the average monthly users of each platform from most to least users.

Is… Is that an Ultima 9 reference?

As a moderator of a fairly large sub over there, I strongly suspect this is happening on a mass scale. According to our stats, we’re getting 120k unique views a month (dropped dramtically during the exodus, but has seemingly returned to normal now), but posts rarely get more than 20 upvotes or comments. I know most redditers are lurkers, but even still, that just seems like an oddly high number of views.