There is no positive motivation to move people away from meat. Health maybe? Shame and forcing self-reflection is one of the few effective tools.

Your last paragraph is just rubbish. That’s not what I was calling pathetic.

You know who else has restrictions on their food? Vegans. You’d have thought you’d be more sympathetic, but nah, you’re negativeyoda.

So honestly, in your opinion, one of the only ways a vegan can change people’s minds is to take them shopping and PAY for their food for them. Amazing, this is a new level of shitty push the blame away behaviour. Pathetic.