I completely understand that neither would be very nimble but I’d expect with how large I’m sure both ships are (an assumption, I know) they shouldn’t need to be nimble to be able to avoid a collision if they’re so visible

Oh, in that case I take it back.

God, I hate this timeline!

I’m glad it’s not just me

Was it actually a US-Poland spat?

I thought it was just Musk running his mouth on Twitter as per.

If that’s the case I think it’s a dangerous game for the wider world to conflate Musk’s actions with the US as a whole

Edit: Seems like it was also US official/s taking part. What a wonderful world we live in 🙃

Now, I’m no expert but as I understand it, the North Sea is a pretty big place.

How is this even possible with modern navigation and communication systems? Even archaic, navigation and communication systems would be able to prevent this from happening. A crows nest would probably be able to avoid this from happening.

Am I crazy?

I think this is the winner. Pretty much exactly what I wanted. Thank you so much!

I’m so glad we’re on the same page. I’ll go back to the people who are actually open and welcoming to new people rather than the ones that try their hardest to condescend and belittle when I am justifiably suspicious of a random unknown file

I don’t remember asking what Debian was. I demanded an answer to the question, “would you download an unfamiliar file from a stranger without any context or description of what it is” (paraphrasing because I don’t remember exactly what I said). And that demand was only because of the condescending comment I was replying to.

I can admit I have been disrespectful to three people, but only in retaliation to a disrespectful comment levied at me first. Everyone else I have had a pleasant discussion with and thanked them for their time and help. I deserve as much respect as anyone else here does, why did you and the others feel justified being disrespectful to me and expecting me to just allow that to happen without me calling it out for what it is?

And I did read the links you posted, I just don’t see how they are relevant to this case. I thought it could have been a productive discussion, and other than this thread and three particularly rude and unwelcoming people, it has been.

I asked if anyone knows of a resource. I didn’t demand a response. Are you seriously suggesting that people in the open source community see sharing information as a bad thing? That is honestly baffling 😂

That’s a great list, thank you for taking the time. I’ll look into them all

Thank you, I appreciate you actually trying to educate me. If I knew that, I definitely would have been less suspicious

A wonderful example of gatekeeping. Because I don’t have this particular piece of inside knowledge I get downvotes. This is literally my first step into the world of open source, a community I had come to believe was welcoming.

This is beyond a joke. If there weren’t other people legitimately engaging with my question in good faith, I’d be well and truly put off of working with you people.

If I had any context, explanation, prior warning, knowledge of the person sending the file, or ANYTHING I might be more inclined to download a random file.

I’m honestly kinda stunned that you think “download this, run this”, from a complete stranger is a smart thing to do. If that is how you manage your personal security I don’t want to imagine how your software will fare.

If you and that other guy are legitimately what I should expect from the open source community then you’re absolutely right, it’s not for me.

My understanding of gzip files is simply that they’re compressed. Compressed files can still be dangerous last I checked. And like I said to the other guy, I don’t know what Debian is. I’m asking for a start into the open source world, how would I know that this random ass compressed file from somewhere I’ve never heard of is going to be safe?

Yes, getting into the open source world is basically the point of my whole post isn’t it? And you didn’t answer my question

It is a downloadable file. How often do you trust strangers that say “Here you go” with no actual context. I’m not trying to be mean, but seriously put yourself in my shoes. Would you download that file?

Another great idea, thank you. I’d never heard of F-Droid either

Oh wow, thank you so much. This sounds perfect, almost exactly what I was imagining

That’s a reasonable stance and I do agree.

I was about to say “but what if I’m just not yet using a project that I would otherwise be passionate about because I don’t know it exists”, but you’ve basically gone over that in the rest of your comment. So thank you

Why are you trying to get me to download whatever that file is?