Nobody expected it because there is a literal convention preventing it. Sure, Erdogan is a cunt, but this isn’t the first time Turkey has denied passage. They’ve done it to Russia. They’ve done it to the US. And for all your talk of Erdogan wanting his pound of flesh, nobody is stupid enough to go up against the US defence forces unless they have very solid backing for their stance. Which the convention gives them. This scenario would be completely different if they were making exceptions for some but not others, but they’re not.

Dunno why you’re dying on this hill when it literally says in the article that nobody expected the ships to be allowed to travel to the Black Sea. It’s almost like the experts know more than some anonymous armchair expert on Lemmy…

Just on the rabies bit, there has been a couple of trials using mRNA vaccines on rabies. They’ve shown promise as they have been shown to be quite effective, and the current rabies vaccines we have are expensive and time consuming to make.

I have covered this in detail, with examples, already. You can keep repeating this horseshit line of logic all you want, it’s not gonna change anything. Especially when you can’t give any support to your argument. Noone gives a shit about your feelings.

I can’t understand that they are the same, because they literally aren’t and have given evidence to support these claims. You can’t support your claims, which leads me to the conclusion that it’s you who is the one who is still confused and further leads me to suggest that you “read back through and try to strengthen your understanding”.

I have made it abundantly clear to as to why they are different. I’m not covering it again. I’d suggest you reread what I have written, as you sure as shit seem to still be confused over an issue that I’ve made incredibly easy for someone even as intellectually limited as yourself to understand.

Also, you have no idea what I’m better than or not. You don’t know me from a bar of soap. So I’ll kindly thank you to keep your opinions of me to yourself, I care even less for them than I do for your disgusting performance in this comment thread.

Don’t have to, you literally can’t prove it. Which means you’re wrong.

Nope. The other employee was given a choice that was entirely fair. There was no abuse of power. I have given you a shitload of examples of how this works and why the two examples are vastly different. Hell, I literally did it in the comment I gave prior to this one. You have given me nothing but “nah, you’re wrong, but I can’t say why”, despite me asking for more info from you. Leaves me no choice but to assume you can’t defend your statements cos they can’t be defended. Which saddens me. Means you’re just doing this cos you’re either an idiot, or full of hate. Neither one is particularly appealing.

Oh no. All this “real world data” you’ve supplied. I can’t possibly keep my head above it and not drown in it… It is funny/terrifying you say “No difference in spread” though, given the second study above literally shows the difference in spread between areas that did and didn’t have mask mandates. Which you’d have known if you actually read em. And no, don’t say you did, cos if you did you woulda known one doesn’t even cover COVID. Which is just beautiful. We literally gave you the opportunity to counter us, and you didn’t do it cos you’re an idiot (yeah, I know it’s not nice to have tricked you twice, but if you weren’t such a tool, then maybe I woulda been nicer. But we both know you can’t be anything but the biggest tool this planet has seen, so that’s just wishful thinking). But thanks for confirming my assertion that “you know literally nothing about how science works”, I guess. Not that I needed it, it was most definitely not a long bow to draw…

And cos I know you’ll comment on it now, yeah, the study linked above doesn’t have any experimental data in regard to COVID19 specifically, but it sure as shit gets as close to it as it can. And anyway, you can’t provide any data to back your claim, so who gives a fuck if it was published super early in the COVID lifecycle, it still shits all over your compete lack of evidence to support your claim.

Dunno how I can make it any clearer without tattooing it to your forehead: She. Could. Not. Consent. Due. To. The. Power. Dynamic. We’ve also covered how the power dynamic in the rape example is wildly different to the dumbass retort I know you’ll respond with that’ll be along the lines of “so the same as COVID”. That’s been done to death. You’re inability to understand this does not mean you are right. Sure, it means you’re dumb as shit for continuing with this dumb as shit line of reasoning, but it doesn’t change the fact that it is dumb as shit and thus you are wrong.

Companies exiting a market and leaving clients/customers without their service isn’t a new thing. Was happening well before DRM was even thought of, let alone implemented. And still happens now. Polaroid leaving the instant photo market comes to mind.

Nope. They were given a choice. And like with most choices, there were repurcussions for that choice. But they still had the choice. Nobody put a gun to their head.

I’m still loving how your replies constantly ignore my pointing out your horseshit. You’re so weak minded you can’t even stay on topic. I didn’t even mention the vaccine in my previous comment, and you hadn’t mentioned it in your previous two. Could it be that it was the sole content of this latest comment of yours cos you can’t keep up with the convo and can’t defend your claims so you have to change the topic? Dear god, I hope you don’t vote, nobody this dumb should have a say in how their country is run…

Wow. That “real world data” must be super compelling if you won’t post it. And I don’t think you read either of em. Cos I tricked you. One isn’t technically a study. It’s a lit review. Covers 96 studies. And I know for a fact that you can’t have read all of them in this time. And if you had read the two given, and had half a brain, you’d have picked up on flaws with the other study given too (and no they didn’t “cherry pick data”, so that isn’t a flaw. They used early data cos they published early, I’d be happy to provide more up to date studies, but why should I when you won’t even read the two already given?). Cos there aren’t many studies that don’t have a flaw or two in them. Cos science isn’t perfect. But you wouldn’t know that, cos you know literally nothing about how science works.

You were literally given scientific, peer reviewed studies that showed that they did limit the spread. You were also asked to prove your outlandish claim with similar, peer reviewed literature. But you can’t. That lack of support for your claim, and a complete inability to even criticise the actual evidence provided that shows your claim is bogus? Well, it all kinda indicates to me that I’ve met rocks who are smarter than you…

It’s a lot of words cos you didn’t get the point when I pointed out how it was different with only a few words. Now, I asked you to support your claim with facts. You haven’t. I’m going to assume that this means you can’t prove it. Which means you’re essentially admitting that you’re wrong. Thanks. I knew spending time with you would eventually be satisfying, cos idiots like you generally make it painfully clear to everyone just idiotic you are.

You have literally been given a number of studies that show that masks are effective. Either shut the fuck up, or provide your own you giant moron… Oh, and no, saying “no valid studies” is not proof of anything. Nor is the YouTube video I just bet you’re itching to reply with. Peer reviewed studies, like the ones already provided. We’ll wait.

Nope. Completely different. I’ve given you facts that support this. I suggest you do the same. Hell, I’ll give you more. A boss who is in any kind of sexual relationship with a subordinate has way more power than they would over a subordinate who they were not having a relationship with (which does imply there is a power dynamic in play in all instances involving a boss and their employees. But that’s not what you said. You said it was “the same”). And this can be proven by the multitude of cases where those bosses who’ve coerced their employees to have sex with them and then been charged. Like I said, literally 0 businesses have been punished for firing employees who didn’t get the vaccine (and I’ve already told you why this is, because being fired for a safety related offence is just cause).

Also, if you are set in your belief that it isn’t rape, why would you think that there is the same power imbalance? As far as your concerned, it’s not even rape, so how could there be a power imbalance? And you’re just gonna ignore the article that shows that vaccines slowed the transmission of COVID? That has a bunch of scientific studies referenced throughout? You are picking and choosing what you reply to, and trying to use that to seem smart. You’re not, you couldn’t argue your way out of a wet paper bag. Hell, I’ve seen 5yos make more convincing cases for an extra serve of icecream after dinner than you are making here…

There is no power dynamic imbalance brought about by your boss firing you for doing something unsafe. Hence why there has been literally 0 cases of workplaces being punished for firing employees who didn’t get the vaccine.

And it’s 100% on topic to mention that the disease was deadly and was literally killing people in many workplaces. It also reduced the spread, even if it didn’t stop it. Cos it’s really hard to spread a disease when you don’t have it.

They 100% can. No power dynamic imbalance in the COVID case. Also, guarantee the employee signed a contract saying that the employer could fire them for just cause. Making the workplace unsafe is definitely just cause for that. And killing your fellow workers with a preventable disease sure sounds unsafe to me. And I know I’m repeating myself but you sure as shit ain’t picking it up, but that’s why you couldn’t get unemployment benefits in the US if you were fired for not getting the jab. Because you were fired with just cause. Because noone was forced to get the jab. Because you could consent to it. The lady in your case literally could not give consent. You can argue all you want about it, but your shitty opinion doesn’t change decades of legal precedent.

Nope. She can’t consent. Which I’ve already linked to. I suggest you read it.