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  • It is NOT difficult to kill yourself intentionally, at all.

    • Make a simple, strong slip knot to use as a noose, secure it somewhere that will support your body weight, tie your hands behind your back so that you can’t easily get out of the restraints, and jump off a ledge of some kind. It won’t break your neck and you’ll die agonizingly, but you will almost certainly die of asphyxiation. Even more effective if you tie yourself up in weights and jump into deep water.
    • Shotgun. Easily procurable in America. Stick in mouth with buckshot and pull trigger. Messy, but effective.
    • Lots of ways to make powerful bombs with materials you can find in stores. Make one and set it off in your mouth.
    • Lock yourself in a room with carbon monoxide. So long as no one’s coming to get you, it’s a nice, peaceful way to go out.
    • Snort a sugar cube’s worth of fentanyl.
    • Sever any major artery and get in a bathtub full of water so the wound can’t seal easily. Cope with the pain until you pass out. As long as no one finds you, you dead.

    I could go on, but I think I’ve been morbid enough.

    Thankfully, suicidal impulses are just that: impulses. They are relatively short-lived (10-20 minutes on average) and then they pass. You may still be depressed, but the urge to end it all is no longer there, for most people. One of the best things you can do when you’re feeling suicidal is just to go to sleep. When you wake up, you’ll likely feel better. The vast majority of people who attempt suicide and live regret it almost immediately, and most of them do not attempt it again.

    However, there are people who enter long suicidal states, where they’ve genuinely made up their mind to end their lives. With these people, no matter what the psychiatric intervention is, short of permanently restraining them, they will almost always find a way to kill themselves. The truth is you cannot stop a person who is truly intent on ending their life. And I for one am very thankful for that, because living should always be a choice. We should not be in the business of forcing people to live torturous, agonizing lives from which there is no real escape or remedy. Everyone should have the option of “getting off the ride” if they so choose. Ultimately, it’s no one’s business but their own.


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    4 days ago

    What is this “long history” you speak of? Point to it for me. Demonstrate you know what you’re talking about.

    Believe me, I have no love of conservatives, but you still have to back up your points with facts.

    It’s very easy to debunk Trump’s points with facts because he has none.



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    I would recommend we stop using a term altogether and simply make our points. Words can always be deconstructed and redefined. The fact that we create and cling to them is our own fault. “Woke” was a term created by the Left and redefined by the Right. It’s very frustrating to me how we’ve totally cooperated with way the Right is redefining the term by responding to it as though they have a legit understanding of it. Which we have done simply by responding. So many of us are like “they don’t know what it means!” But they do. We defined it for them, and now we just don’t like that they’re using it to attack us. The definition of “woke” is “liberal bullshit.” And it has meaning to all conservatives; the fact that liberals think it’s meaningless doesn’t matter. We don’t even use the term anymore, because we’ve acquiesced to the conservative definition. That means they’ve won, with respect to that specific term. So, stop using it. Let them have it. Move on.




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    yea, because right wing propaganda has turned it into a pejorative.

    LOL, it hasn’t done that in its own. Stop giving them more influence than they’re due. Woke language even has librarais cringing, and it’s not because they oppose the message.

    Woke messaging has a problem with exaggeration, the same as all political messaging does. You guys say things like “all gender identities are social constructs,” when that’s clearly not the case. You say things like “all racism is due to systemic racism,” when clearly that’s not the case. People see this. They’re not stupid. They see that your assertions are wrong. I align with the message, I really do, but I’m tired of “woke” messengers fucking up our message with their hyperbolic bullshit. This plays right into Trump’s hands! And until you dipshits see it, he will continue to take advantage and win. So, I’m sorry if you don’t like me pointing it out, but you’re the fucking problem!






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    21 days ago

    It sounds like wherever you are does not have adequate services for their homeless population. That’s a serious problem, and I would obviously advocate for the expansion of said services over sleep-prevention measures added to park benches.

    But I am a therapist with experience working with homeless people, and contrary to what you apparently think, my experience does give me expertise on their lives. Where I live, they do have options. I’m sorry your state doesn’t serve its homeless population as well as mine. We can both agree that’s a bad thing. What we disagree on is that this simple park benches feature is/isn’t an “attack” on homeless people. I also hold the position that methadone clinics are a disservice to opioid addicts—due to my extensive experience with that population who are still addicted to opioids, and whose methadone clinics actively encourage them to remain on methadone rather than titrate off of it. Are you going to tell me that being against that is an “attack” on heroin addicts?

    I’m sorry you’ve had the experiences you’ve had, but my position is entirely defensible, and you haven’t presented me with any evidence to the contrary. Moreover, your contention that I’m a “bad” therapist speaks volumes about your naïveté regarding my profession.


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    As I said to another commenter, “anti-homeless” measures like these make zero sense if there aren’t resources for the homeless available. I’m sorry, it doesn’t sound like resources were available to you, and that truly sucks. Your state should do better.

    However, in places where resources are available, homeless people still sometimes refuse to utilize them, and then measures like this become valid and utilitarian.


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    Not where I live. There are plenty of options for the homeless in my city, but we still have problems with homeless people taking up public space because they would rather be left alone and not address their problems.

    Do you think I’m lying? Can you not empathize with this problem? Do you really think all homeless people flock to the resources available to them? None of them resort to vagrancy at all? Do you think the inventors of these bench features had steepled fingers and were like, “Let’s fuck these homeless MFers even harder!”?

    Providing resources only goes so far. As a therapist, I can easily tell you that merely making help available does not guarantee the needy will come get help. Sometimes, you have to make it impossible for people to escape the consequences of their actions before they’ll do the work necessary to get better.


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    Sounds like the area you were in didn’t have adequate homeless shelters. Where I live, you could always have gone there. The cops wouldn’t necessarily have taken you there, but you could certainly have gotten there in your own.

    I will admit that “anti-homeless” bench features don’t make much sense unless you have places and resources for homeless people to fall back on. But if there are said resources, I see the utility of these features to disincentivize homeless people from using public benches as a substitute for getting professional help.




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    Literally anyone using the bench potentially prevents someone else from also using the bench. Why is it a bigger deal when it’s a homeless person doing the using?

    If the homeless person was just sitting on the bench, it wouldn’t be an issue. The bench features we’re talking about aren’t designed to prevent people from sitting on them; they’re designed to prevent people from lying down on them comfortably, thereby taking up more space and using the bench for a purpose it was not intended.

    You chided me for calling someone else stupid, so I’m trying to be nicer, but I honestly don’t feel like I should have to explain this to you.

    Why is your focus on prevention and not education/outreach anyways?

    As I’ve said in other comments, I support outreach attempts as well. My focus is on this prevention technique because it’s the topic of the thread.


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    No. But since you have experience, let me ask you: did you spend time sleeping on public benches and do you think features that attempt to prevent this are an attack on homeless people? And just to be clear, since this is a text-only format, I’m not being sarcastic or trying to make light of your experience; I’m genuinely curious.