There is very little point for ANYONE to stay if they don’t have to (unless they want to fight for freedom like our ancestors had to). If you have a way of escaping, definitely take it.

The $1000 comes from us and goes into their pocket… The $1 would come out of their pocket and into our kid’s mouth… Although, we’d probably need to buy the food from them too so the $1 would still end up back in their pocket… But the point of the system is to take money out of our pockets and put it in theirs, not to take it out of one of their pockets and put it in their other pocket

I’ll go treefitty

Man… That AI is going to be so fucked up when it gains sentience

Georgia: Biden won by 11,779, Kamala lost by 115,100= -126,879 difference … Trump 2020 2,461,854 vs 2024 2,663,117= +201,263… So Biden no shows wouldn’t have changed this one (assuming they stayed home and didn’t vote for Trump)… If they did go vote for Trump then only 74,384 were actual no shows, also wouldn’t have made a difference.

North Carolina: Biden lost by 74,483, Kamala lost by 183,048= -105,565 difference… Trump 2020 2,758,775 vs 2024 2,898,428 = +139,653 So Biden no shows wouldn’t have changed this one (assuming they stayed home and didn’t vote for Trump)… If they did go vote for Trump then only 34,088 were actual no shows, also wouldn’t have made a difference.

Michigan: Biden won by 154,188, Kamala lost by 80,618= -234,806 difference… Trump 2020 vs 2024= +154,795= So Biden no shows would have changed this one (assuming they stayed home and didn’t vote for Trump)… If they did go vote for Trump then only 80,011 were actual no shows, also wouldn’t have made a difference.

Alright, I concede… In only some of the swing states would the Biden no shows have changed the results. The electoral college is garbage.

I think finding out whether the Biden no shows actually stayed home or went out to vote for Trump is important. And the people that definitely stayed home, why?

Either way, Dems should stop trying to court the right who might swing Dem one election but then swing maga the next… Court the left, at least they’ll only swing between showing up or not showing up. As much as libs like to say not voting= voting for Trump, it’s far less of a vote for Trump than an ACTUAL vote for Trump.

They didn’t show up for him either.

To be fair, they didn’t show up for him either.

I’m sure we could break it down by state… But the missing voters is THE thing that swung this election. Figuring out the true reason those people sat this one out should be everyone’s top priority.

Millions of people did vote for Bernie, and he absolutely would have won the general… Clinton and her minions rigged the primary. The right doesn’t care about policy, but the left, especially the moral “Bernie” left absolutely care about policy. The sexists who can’t bring themselves vote for a woman are right-wing voters and always have been. The idea that the left is filled with blatant sexists is delusional.

Have you seen a demographics poll of the 7 million Biden voters who stayed home? I’ve been looking. If you found one can you share it please? Thanks

8.6% of Biden voters didn’t show up for Kamala. That’s hardly “most”… In fact it seems like a pretty reasonable percent of the left who might actually care more about the morality of their vote than any other concern. Those are the people we’re talking about.

We’re not talking about the people who DID vote. It’s the people who didn’t vote who mattered in this election. Specifically the ones who voted last time but not this time. And many of the ones who didn’t vote, made it clear they COULDN’T bring themselves to vote for genocide, and being given no option to not vote for genocide, their only choice was to sit it out. It was a moral decision.

Fun fact, the DNC started all of these things in 2016 when they did them all to Bernie and his supporters. The RNC simply learned from their playbook.

But I can agree, some of the people who didn’t vote may have been influenced by it being harder to vote this time.

I’m sorry, but the idea that 10 million people on the left chose not to vote for someone just because she’s a woman is ridiculous. People who think like that are Republicans and would never have voted blue no matter what.

I’m pretty sure the DNCs entire strategy was making sure people knew they were better than Trump. But okay, I’ll give you that one of their failings was not leaning into all the horrible things Trump did or allowed.

Once again, they are only looking at the people who DID vote… Those people always vote, and clearly the proportion of blue “always voters” is dwindling compared to red “always voters”. Yes ignorant voters lean red, but it doesn’t matter. Stop pretending like there’s a huge swath of “swing” voters. There’s not. Trump got basically the same votes this time. This election came down to the 10 million Biden voters who stayed home for Kamala. That’s it. All the rest of this is nonsense bullshit propaganda to obscure the truth. Why didn’t they come out for Kamala??

If they do, they will lose… Again

That’s probably why the peaceful cooperative non violent types tolerated the sociopaths in the first place… Need that bruiser to protect you from the neighboring city’s bruiser

I’ve actually thought about this type of thing quite a lot, and I’ve come to the conclusion that you’d have to go back to the first Sumerian cities, and convince all the regular peaceful cooperative people to kick out anyone who says anything along the lines of “do what I say or I’ll kill you”.

Yeah… Taking over the party would be easier if many people united to do so

No, this is called a healthy boundary… And if they stick to it, all the better… It shouldn’t even be a difficult boundary for Dems to respect… Just stop running evil candidates… If the Dems can’t adopt that strategy, well it’s their strategy that will cost minorities, and they should be shamed and stripped of power for it.