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  • bisby@lemmy.worldtolinuxmemes@lemmy.world:wq!
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    11 months ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=188fipF-i5I

    This video goes over a lot of metrics about how far you have to move your fingers to type certain things, and how we wound up at qwerty in the first place. The truth of it is though: different layouts are better for different things. He shows in the video a bunch of keyboard layouts optimized for things like youtube comments, the script of the Bee movie, wikipedia, etc.

    At 7:12 in the video, he cites Dvorak as 26.2% more efficient than qwerty for how much your fingers need to travel to type. This covers letter frequency, but also sequencing (ie, typing the letters “un” on qwerty means i have go from top row U to bottom row N with the same finger).

    I don’t use dvorak, because if I want to use someone else’s computer, I don’t want to have to fight with muscle memory, but it is “superior” in many ways.




  • “Flat” and “flat screen” arent the same thing. CRT TVs had a curved glass screen. Due to the fact that the rear projection could just project across the curve. With technology advancements they were able to improve picture clarity while flattening the screen. These were still bulky projection style TVs, but were called flat screen. But then when actual “flat” TVs (in the form of LCD, etc) came around people kept using the term. So a flat screen TV could be very thick.



  • Saying GNU/Linux does not give that message to 99% of people though. If I say that the SteamDeck actually runs on GNU/Linux to a normie gamer, they are more likely to be like “ok, that sounds confusing I’ll stick to xbox”. And anyone within the community already gets it. We all know the meme, we all get it. Semantics goes both ways. Sometimes you win hearts and minds, and sometimes you just annoy people who don’t care.

    And in the name of semantics, “attribution” and “credit” are not the same. I’m obligated to say IceWeasel, or as I’ve taken to calling it, “The libre Firefox fork known as IceWeasel”… It’s important to call it by the full name every time, because Firefox is really the basis of 99.9% of the code in the repo. The repo gives full attribution to firefox and mozilla, but when we refer to it, we never actually give credit to the original.

    And since we don’t need to call out the original if we fork something, if I fork GNU-utils and call it linux-OS-utils. And then build on my own distro, would that be a fully Linux OS? Even though its functionally and codewise identical to a “GNU/Linux” distro?


  • bisby@lemmy.worldtolinuxmemes@lemmy.world"Shame on you!" - DT, 2023
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    1 year ago

    Indeed. “Linux” now means “literally Linux, the kernel” and also “an operating system that uses Linux as the kernel”. Kind of like how people say they use “Windows” but they mean that they use “Windows 11”.

    The only reason saying “GNU/Linux” helps is if you want to give credit to GNU. It doesn’t add clarity to anything. Which is warranted, but also, what if I forked GNU and relabeled it as linux-tools. I believe that’s within my right, isn’t it? To fork and copy things.

    It’s kinda odd to be like “copyright is bad, the works should be free, and just pass around naturally!” … “but also make sure I get credit”


  • Yeah. people raising complaints in bad faith is a problem. If they say “I have a problem with ‘early’ too” and the reason is just “i dont like it”. then sure. I’d agree this is a person being a problem. This is a phrase that is directly traceable to master/slave via bitkeeper. Its not just “someone is grasping at straws trying to be offended at random words that are completely unrelated”. And things can get stuck in your head. You might think of this conversation every time you git checkout master going forward. So a person affected by slavery, thinking of slavery everytime a word about slavery is used feels pretty understandable. It’s not completely upfront, so if things don’t change it’s not going to cause someone to change careers. This is a VERY low impact change. It’s going to make 1% of people’s life 0.1% better. It will also make 0% of people’s life worse at all. It is a net benefit.

    A person with 3 legitimate complaints is not a problem. You gave an example of a person with 1 legitimate complaints and 2 random complaints.

    To me, it sounds like you’re saying “Black people complain about being oppressed too much, sure maybe they have some valid complaints, but the word doesn’t bother ME so therefore this is just unfair whining.” You don’t see the severity of it, so therefore its not severe.

    You seem pretty insistent on not wanting to change because you don’t want to have to bend the knee and change just because someone told you to change. And I seem to think that this is a (very minor but nonzero) net benefit in the world, so the world gets better if we do it, not because we have to and someone is telling us to, but because why not. I don’t think we’re going to see eye to eye on this, so agree to disagree.


  • The issue is that no one is taking my words out of context to get offended. No one is getting offended because I said things. They are getting offended because of their own situation, that I just happened to have brought up. If someone in the military had PTSD because someone yelled “Duck!” and then a grenade blew up right near them, so now they have panic attacks anytime they hear someone loudly say duck. That isn’t them “taking the word duck out of context” that is “the word duck affects their brain differently.” No one is saying that using the word master makes you a mean malicious person. No one is accusing you of being on the attack trying to hurt people when you use a word without realizing how it impacts others. If a military vet was like “hey I have severe anxiety when someone says duck, can we say ‘leave early’ instead of ‘duck out early’”. I would be like “oh shit, i didnt realize. my bad, yeah, of course” not “YOURE TAKING MY WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT I HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE THOSE WORDS”. If you know the word hurts others and then you double down and insist on using it, then yeah, you’re on the attack because clearly you don’t care that you are hurting people.

    It’s pretty easy to tell a good faith argument most of the time. You don’t need to just blindly accept the opinion of all people. “Hey this word is heavily associated with slavery and makes people think of slavery” is pretty striaghtforward. Thats not a purely bad faith argument.

    I don’t know all who you think is “insisting” on the “master/main” change. Everyone I’ve talked to has been like “yeah, if we could that’s cool.” or likened it to more of a “its like if someone reminded you daily of that time you accidentally called the teacher ‘mom’ … having it go away would be nice, but if it doesn’t oh well.” No one is crying over it or making demands. The only “insisting” is just people questioning why the slight suggestion results in so much pushback.

    It seems like your only reason to not change is “because someone asked me to and I’m too stubborn and reject any decision that wasn’t my own.” At least “changing a branch name on the worlds largest repo has consequences” is a valid reason. But “I refuse to listen to others”… cmon.



  • Which distros has no one heard of? some of the are discontinued, so the meme is old (which probably explains the old Fedora logo). And its probably small because this was a preview image from another meme site instead of the full size image. But otherwise the only thing that stands out to me is that backtrack/kali is definitely NOT neo. kali is what you use when you THINK youre a hacker when youre 14. “Im 14 and my linux distro is edgy” vibes. It should have the Mint photo of the kid.


  • I don’t know the history of who started the master/main debate. if it was a bunch of white people trying to show how progressive they were while black programmers were like “yeah, we don’t care”, then it’s virtue signaling. If it was the black programmers being like “this phrase feels weird to us… can we change it?” … then it’s not virtue signalling, it’s listening to underrepresented voices. I legitimately don’t know which scenario it is. I’m also not in a position where the word bothers me at all, but I also have an easy life, and if someone tells me a word used in a certain way feels weird and I can resolve that with 0 effort (ie, switch new projects to main), I will.

    And of course about the retroactive changing, which is why I said I wouldn’t expect linux to change.


  • Thats not the only definition though. It’s clearly the intended one, but it’s possible to make someone think of other definitions when a word pops up.

    And it’s not too hard to go “Oh, I get why alternate definitions might make people uncomfortable, even if I have no issue with it.” And if you can see why someone might be uncomfortable in a situation, and it’s zero effort to avoid that situation… why not?

    Unless you’re intentionally trying to not understand, or lack empathy and genuinely can’t understand why words with alternate definitions heavily linked to slavery might make people uncomfortable, it feels pretty self explanatory.

    I’ll give Linus a pass, because linux kernel is probably the most widely accessed repo out there, and changing defaults and standards can have an actual impact on third party tooling.