That’s a lot of words. So, what’s the answer to the question?

If you not interested in my opinion feel free to leave at any point.

If copying is an action open to everyone, what can a person create on a computer, that they could expect other people to pay them for? What could they make that doesn’t have equal value simply to copy, than to buy from its creator?

Quite simple because you value the works of others? If you want for example a specific art piece from a specific artist you commission it from that artist. We also don’t need to have a theoretical debate about it - since steam exist. You can have most games pirated or get them even cheaper (than on stem) from grey key market - but if one makes a convenient affordable (localized cost for example )distribution options, people will pay for things they use - because most people actually think that it’s the right thing to do (as long as they can afford it). No everyone is an asshole, most people are actually not.

I miss like one community and sort by controversial to enjoy a really nice shit show.

Dude are you really that dense? I say that digital goods are not the same as physical goods and the concept of ownership or theft which applies to physical goods does not apply in the same way to non physical goods. Humans created different frameworks to be able to make money and integrate non material goods into economy. But that does not change the nature of things: unlimited number of people can have the same thought at the same time in different physical locations - that is not possible with physical objects; if someone copies an digital objects it’s still there for others to use, not so much if someone steals an objects.

If we are talking about copyright infringement, sure - but don’t equate copyright infringement to theft. And we can talk about use of immaterial goods, but no-one really owns them. Again - you can not own an idea, even if you create a legal framework that pretends that it’s possible - at any given time at any given place someone can come up with the same idea even as complex as say - periodic system of elements.

What ever they can find someone to pay for. I my self pay or use legally free software for my work. I just do t think that if someone pirates a copy of adobe cs it’s equivalent to theft of a physical good. Completely ok in my book for private use a bit shady for commercial use - but adobe subscription model is shady in my book anyway.

Nope, that’s not what I’m saying. I just make a difference between copying, stealing, physical goods, digital goods and immaterial things. They are not the same.

Easy examples: original and copy does not really apply to digital works or two people on opposite sides of world can have the same thought but not have the same physical object at the same time, etc.

Pretty sure it was Marvel or something.

Sorry to hear.

Sure buddy what ever makes you happy.

I have a thing and than someone takes it away, so I can’t use it anymore. If somebody copies that thing - it’s not really theft.

My point is more - concepts from physical world don’t nessessary apply to digital world.

Jesus was the first pirate.

Still not theft.

You seem to not understand what the word own means and the difference between material and not material goods.

There is no such thing as intellectual property - you can not own a thought.

I don’t see anything wrong with paying for software or music or digital media. I don’t think that not doing so is theft - like I also don’t think that getting into a concert without paying is theft. By the way a concert is also not digital data, at least an irl one.

One of the great modern scams, was to convince society that unauthorized copying of data is somehow equivalent to taking away a physical object.

Sounds like they will create a non-corporate version of the internet by accident. Sound good to me, but I feel like it won’t fly in EU to well.

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Easiest way to make it less toxic, is to make it just chronological - that’s just the most basic example.

You could change the experience in significant way by adjusting the algorithm of suggested posts.

Most NASA stuff is published under non affiliation free use license - you can do what ever you like with it.