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Cake day: June 9th, 2023

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  • Your whole wordlview is hinging on two conflicting realities:

    • social networking is an inherently public activity, and this is the way that the majority of people want it to be.
    • the only way to be free from surveillance capitalism is by having private communications, and while this is something that affects everyone, only a minority of people seem to be actively opposed to it.

    The “consent-based” social media does not work well for a small business owner who wants to promote their place to their local community, or the artisan that wants to put up a gallery with their work online. They want to be found.

    If you tell them that they have to choose between (a) a social network that makes it easier for them to reach their communities or (b) a niche network that is only used by a handful of people who keeps putting barriers for any kind of contact; which one do you think they will choose?

    What your recent articles are trying to do is (basically) try to shove the idea that the majority should change their behavior and completely reject a public internet. You are basically saying that the “social” networks should be "anti-"social in nature. This is, quite honestly, borderline totalitarian.

    But that’s not feasible for broad data harvesting by Meta.

    Why? You keep writing about how evil Meta is and their infinite amount of resources. If you really believe that, why do you think they would stop at the mere wall of “federation consent”?









  • If we don’t grow faster, we are always going to be irrelevant. To illustrate the point: Lemmy had a monstrous gift given by Reddit’s management and completely failed to capitalize on it. Later on, when my fediverser project was signing up hundreds of people per day and the conversations started by the bots were used by organic users in niche communities, the reactionaries here decided to treat everything as spam, instead of seeing it as a hook to convert more people.

    Fast forward a few weeks, and now Lemmy is back to being a place to nothing but meta-conversation about the Fediverse and a handful of people pretending they are not using Reddit anymore.






  • Not only all the things you mention, but I kept thinking "Well, if they do manage to make a pivot where they are nothing but infrastructure and still manage to please Wall Street, then good for everyone:

    • Users will have a way to move out if they want to do so.
    • Companies that want to keep a social media presence will be able to do it from their own domains, while not having to worry about the operational aspects.
    • Decentralization is still preserved.
    • Transparency is still preserved.
    • By becoming infrastructure, it basically means they will become a commodity which will have to compete on price. Sure, one could make the case that AWS (and Azure/GCP) make real money by providing other services on top of their “basic” hosting offers, but no one looks AWS and think “AWS is locking people and charging crazy prices on S3 but they can’t get a compelling alternative”.

    If anything, all these “what if scenarios” are almost making me wish that Zuck does pull it off.