Yeah. The moral is “every and all devices have an unknown number of zero-days inactive or actively being exploited at any given time”, not “iPhone is just as insecure as everything else”. There’s a difference, and credit is deserved where it’s due.

This is kind of a ridiculous take. I hate iPhones, but this is not a “hurr durr iPhones bad and insecure” moment. I implore you to look at the sophistication of this attack. The attack chain is so ridiculously long and complex, and only because of the security of the iPhone. This is not a script kiddie attack, and could only be executed by a very determined party.

No device is secure, and any and all computers could potentially fall victim to an attack like this, but it is absolutely ignorant to say that iPhones don’t offer any more security than other devices.

In what world is this a “gotcha”, mine is plaintext lol.

For me, I can’t get over the obvious banding and gradient artifacts, and it’s just too distracting.

Please use punctuation. This is incredibly hard to read, especially to those who are dyslexic.

Thanks for the info, that’s absurd. I don’t know why more people are talking about this then.

Cursory research about this seems you can replace it yourself for $10. Are you sure about this?

It’s like driving to a city just to get out of your car and shout why you hate that city, then leave. It’s just like… why not go somewhere else then and move on with your life?

I do, but what I don’t understand is subscribing to a community on an instance you hate. Or did you not realize that this is a Lemmy world community?

Imagine going out of your instance to a community on one you hate just to post hate about it. What happened to blocking and moving on

What is the point of ever asking a question on the Internet if it should always just be met with “do your own research”? For the record, I did Google around and I couldn’t find that Wikipedia article, and when I did see it in another comment, I didn’t still understand the concept. This comes across as incredibly gatekeeper-y. Don’t understand why I’m not “allowed” into the conversation because I’m being barred from context because I don’t understand an initialism and my research failed.

Wtf does EEE mean, why must people assume everyone knows every acronym

You were the one that called it spyware. Your opinion is valid, but my opinion was that Lemmy users tend to exaggerate when talking about closed source software. People are so quick to trash on anything not FOSS, then when asked about sources to back claims up, they are mostly anecdotal and not directly related to the additional claims. Case-in-point, someone asked why you called it spyware, and you responded with the first two points referencing a clauses of a privacy policy that is nearly identical to every social media platform in existence today, and the last point referencing security flaws. The security flaws, in the past, were mostly around cookie stealers (which isn’t Discord’s fault, literally any browser is at risk if you download malware), and some chromium bugs. A lot of the “hacks” that went around were just scare-pastas that were just made up too. So, no, I don’t think there are notable, active flaws that are currently being abused by third-parties as you claim, because Discord has a financial interest to keep their platform secure. If there were active holes being exploited and they just sat around and did nothing, it would upset shareholders, which you noted they did have.

So while you are entitled to your opinion, I do challenge you to consider the other sides of the argument, and consider that closed source software users may have good reasons to use such software. Also do consider that some of the points you made are hyperbolic and that you may be moving the goal posts a bit with your claims.

I wish you well, take care.

That is a fine perspective, and I’m here to learn about yours. However, that does not make it spyware.

Because I don’t want to live in a bubble? Isn’t the whole point of Internet forums to have dissenting opinions? I made that comment to start a discussion or have others reflect on what their perspectives might be, because it really seems like almost all of Lemmy is anti-corporate, pro-hyper-privacy. I’m not pro-corporate by any means, but I really think it’s time people reflect and think of reasons why some people may use a platform like Discord, instead of just assuming they are stupid, or otherwise lesser, and like being spied. Because it’s just simply hyperbolic and not true. Not everything has to be FOSS, there are use cases for otherwise.

Anything closed source with a privacy policy is spyware to Lemmy users.

By this same logic, other people could know your fingerprint since it’s “something you are”. No, other people cannot know your fingerprint. It’s a complex mathematical equation to a computer. This is such a terrible take.

Source: CASP+ certified.

Average fediverse user seeing a platform undergo changes they dislike:

Haha hell yeah, weird but no complaints I suppose

Thanks for sharing, that makes me feel better about my decision to use them over other apps. Glad you’re happy 😊