• Ranvier@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    238
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    So then we don’t have to give money to Israel if we keep going after tax cheats instead? Sounds great, let’s do that

      • Ranvier@sopuli.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        31
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        It’s a pretty hollow threat. Including Israel funding was the bait in the bill to get house Republicans to go along with more Ukraine funding too, which they have all decided they want to cut off and hand over to Russia. If they cut out Ukraine funding, and try to randomly drag the IRS in it too, this is just dead in the water. I do worry how they’re gonna get house Republicans to agree to more Ukraine funding though.

        • SinningStromgald@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          15
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          The Republicans have no idea how to negotiate and most of the Democrats aren’t easily manipulated idiots so it’s likely going to take a very long time. Assuming it’s even possible to get a reasonable offer out of the Republicans, which it isn’t.

    • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      25
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yep, this is a win-win. Let’s keep the stalemate going until the billionaires are taxed out of existence and Israel has agreed to a ceasefire.

  • halferect@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    135
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    OK cool, let’s tax the rich and not give aid to Israel. I really don’t see a down side to this.

  • Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    73
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    Fuck Israel and fuck the rich. Neither one deserves a subsidy paid for by my taxes.

  • Norgur@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    65
    ·
    1 year ago

    This “I’ll block something super unrelated until you do my thing that goes against voter’s interests” thing alone is a reason not to vote for those moneybags… Undemocratic as fuck!

  • danc4498@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    66
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    What does Israel need money for? Seems like they’re managing well in their own.

    • spaceghoti@lemmy.oneOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Yes, but Moscow Mitch serves the richest elite who have rewarded him handsomely over his career. So he can’t allow them to be audited or taxed if he can help it.

        • spaceghoti@lemmy.oneOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          The Senate is also proposing spending bills. It is up to the House to ratify it, but that doesn’t mean the Senate can’t make their own contributions. Schumer has announced that the Senate will vote on some budget bills today, and McConnell is indicating his support depends on their willingness to further engorge the deficit so his wealthy patrons can benefit.

        • 4am@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          They’re all tangled together in the same big lemon party

      • FlowVoid@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        McConnell is not trying to tie Ukraine/Israel military aid to IRS funding. He is trying to tie military aid to increased funding for border security. And he might well succeed, especially as cities like Chicago are starting to complain about immigration.

  • CaptFeather@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    61
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Honestly this seems like a win-win. The rich have to pay their dues and we’re not funding an openly terrorist govt!

  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    47
    ·
    1 year ago

    Republicans “We’re going to shutdown the government because we’re not being financially responsible and we’re spending more than we take in.”

    Also republicans “we should give up hundreds of billions of dollars to let our rich donors cheat on their taxes.”

    • Cethin@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Along with your last bit of giving up tax revenue, it’s also increasing spending to send aid to a nation committing genocide…

  • Auntie Oedipus ✊🏰🕰️@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    47
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    it’s a shame the US establishment is so beholden to their proxy genocide. If you were a decent person with principles this would be an amazing time to say ‘okay’ and then just walk away from the negotiating table having given none of our money to either the fabulously wealthy or genocidal dictators.

    • dx1@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Imagine even that tiny speck of sanity and conscience being present in U.S. politics.

    • VR20X6@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Zelenskyy has also tried to bully us, for example blocking gas pipelines from Russia to the EU and then blaming it on the Russians. I get it since they’re on the defensive and desperate to protect their home, but it’s still obnoxious since we should be and already are supporting them. That being said, Ukraine isn’t also bombing refugee camps full of innocent people. The EU also really needs to ween off of Russian fossil fuels anyway. The Israel-Hamas conflict, by contrast, reeks of ESH and I wish we weren’t so invested in either side.

      EDIT: Just making it clear for those that didn’t read the above very closely: Ukraine deserves support. It just doesn’t change the fact that Zelenskyy has tried to twist arms for that support, for better or worse.

  • roguetrick@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    1 year ago

    For those that don’t read the article - they want to cut funding to the IRS (a revenue generating expense) to pay for aid to Israel.

  • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    30
    ·
    1 year ago

    CBO says the House’s Israel aid bill is not offset at all.

    Will add $12.5B to the deficit in the next decade.

    Cuts to IRS will decrease revenue by $26.7B