In response to Mike Johnson recently becoming the new House speaker, over 12,000 people have signed a Christian petition condemning the congressman as a “false prophet” among other Republican Party members.
Faithful America, an online Christian group that supports social justice causes, released their second-annual “False Prophets Don’t Speak for Me” campaign featuring a list of top Christian-nationalist leaders in both church and politics along with a petition on Tuesday. The list, which in addition to Johnson, identifies former President Donald Trump, pastor Mark Burns, self-proclaimed prophet affiliated with the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) Julie Green, Fox News host Laura Ingraham, Ohio Representative Jim Jordan, conservative activist and radio talk show host Charlie Kirk, pastor Jackson Lahmeyer, Texas’ Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, Archbishop Carlo Viganò, self-proclaimed prophet affiliated with NAR Lance Wallnau, and co-founder of Moms for Liberty and school board chair in Sarasota, Florida, Bridget Ziegler as “false prophets.”
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Estimates from 2021 suggest that of the entire U.S. population (332 million) about 63% is Christian (210 million).
12k just doesn’t seem like a newsworthy amount.
He wouldn’t give a shit if it was 12 million. He wouldn’t give a shit if every person on Earth including his wife and kids signed it. Because Republicans don’t give a shit about anyone but themselves.
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Honestly it’s higher than I expected.
Something like 40% of Christians in the US are Democrats, then a good portion are independents. Christian Nationalists are not different only in volume and tenacity from other Christians, they outright believe different things.
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It’s not newsworthy.
Petitions, and articles about petitions, mean nothing. It’s not like the GOP will see this and do anything.
Meanwhile 60 million other Christians are all in on this guy, and the rest are ok with it
“Don’t blame me, I’m one of the good ones.”
Neither the Catholics, nor the Baptists, nor the Episcopalians, nor the Presbyterians, nor the Orthodox, nor any of the other “Christian” denominations/jurisdictions have ever put out an official position statement on behalf of their churches condemning this Christofascist Nationalism shit.
I know it’s not a lot and nothing will change because of it specifically, but aside from the few individual Christians who have spoken publicly to say that this Christofascist Nationalism is NOT actually Christianity, there is now an actual group who has said so.
It’s far too little, and probably far too late, but it is pleasant to see.
Neither the Catholics, nor the Baptists, nor the Episcopalians, nor the Presbyterians, nor the Orthodox, nor any of the other “Christian” denominations/jurisdictions have ever put out an official position statement on behalf of their churches condemning this Christofascist Nationalism shit.
That sounds a lot like the voices who, after 9/11, were demanding that Muslims should issue public statements condemning al Qaeda, because “silence means agreement.”
White silence is white violence
Religion != race
Christian group that supports social justice causes
Ahaha, oh boy.
According to Faithful America, those listed in its petition are a threat to Christian nationalism
I really hope that’s a misinterpretation.
Not every church is the Westboro Baptist church. Most big denominations are pretty socially conservative, but some very left wing churches exist.
How’s about ALL prophets are false prophets?
BTW, I don’t need these turds telling me who they approve of. Self-aggrandizing cunts.
I don’t need you telling me who you approve of either, yet here you are.
Ugh. That’s depressing news - 63% of this country is dumb enough to believe in christian idiocracy. It shows that there is a real lack of education and intelligence in our country. Mike Johnson is a disgusting cunt of a filth monger, but that’s all he is - if he’s a prophet it’s only as a prophet of the even more disastrous and corrupting days that are to come. Sad times indeed.
I’m convinced that most of that 63% identify as Christian solely out of momentum. If you ask most of them probably would say they haven’t been to church in months and only really go for Christmas and Easter out of some misplaced guilt. If I were to wager I’d say only about a third of that population is the ones causing trouble because it’s always the bottom third that are assholes
That’s likely to be true. There’s an article in our local Tribune today about how much people say they are religious vs. how much they really practice religious beliefs or go to church, and it turns out, most people think it’s important to SAY they are actively religious (I’m not sure why) but they don’t really go to church or do anything in any religious capacity. For myself (an atheist) I don’t see what the attraction of religion is, or pretending to be religious. If there is any god or “son of god,” I doubt he/she/it/they care what you do in your life at all.
Because Atheism has a hell of a stigma attached. The loudest Atheists are frankly just as insufferable as the hyper religious and people don’t want to be associated with them. I myself agree with Sagan’s version of Agnostcism but I just don’t care enough to try and wrangle with what exact word describes my situation which I would argue is a similar boat to most people
It does indeed have a huge stigma attached, and again I’m not sure why. I’m not advocating for Satan by being an atheist. I’m as sure of my convictions about atheism as anyone who is religious-minded. I might lean more toward agnosticism - because I’ve always felt there is something bigger (and very unknowable to us humans) out there - but I feel obligated to identity as atheist because many of my friends scoff at the idea of anyone being agnostic - they think it means i’m on the fence about my beliefs, even though I’m really not.
that number has been dropping consistently since the 90’s, at a rate of about 1%/year. a quick estimate for % of America that’s christian is 85% - years since 2000. less than half of Americans are a member of a religious congregation today
I live in Utah and less and less people are identifying as Mormon here. It’s actually less than you’d think, something like 43% maybe. My ancestor was a famous Mormon pioneer, but I don’t consider myself mormon, I’m not religious at all. And we have a huge influx of people now from other states, seeking job opportunities. We have a lot of jobs, but they’re all pretty low paying but I think that’s why our local numbers of folk identifying as religious are dropping so much.
Incredibly dumb shit…
But I have to say, that list of baddies they put out? It’s pretty damn solid. Those are some grade A baddies.
Fuck that. Where do I sign the counter petition to affirm my support that Mike Johnson is not only the real prophet, he is multiple prophets.
I have it on good authority that Speaker Johnson is both Jesus Christ and Muhammad reincarnated and rerisen to clear the path for Armageddon, or second Trump term, whichever is a bit easier to make happen.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In response to Mike Johnson recently becoming the new House speaker, over 12,000 people have signed a Christian petition condemning the congressman as a “false prophet” among other Republican Party members.
Faithful America, an online Christian group that supports social justice causes, released their second-annual “False Prophets Don’t Speak for Me” campaign featuring a list of top Christian-nationalist leaders in both church and politics along with a petition on Tuesday.
The list, which in addition to Johnson, identifies former President Donald Trump, pastor Mark Burns, self-proclaimed prophet affiliated with the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) Julie Green, Fox News host Laura Ingraham, Ohio Representative Jim Jordan, conservative activist and radio talk show host Charlie Kirk, pastor Jackson Lahmeyer, Texas’ Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, Archbishop Carlo Viganò, self-proclaimed prophet affiliated with NAR Lance Wallnau, and co-founder of Moms for Liberty and school board chair in Sarasota, Florida, Bridget Ziegler as “false prophets.”
“It’s hard to overstate the threat that anti-democracy, anti-freedom Christian nationalism poses to both democracy and the church today, especially now that Rep. Mike Johnson has become the most Christian-nationalist speaker in U.S. history,” Faithful America’s petition states.
Johnson was elected as speaker last month after weeks of infighting among House GOP members once Kevin McCarthy was ousted from the position, including Jordan’s failed attempts to win the speakership after three rounds of voting.
The threat is not from voters or people in the pews, but from the greedy liars and con men who spread disinformation, deploy the us-vs-them politics of fascism, and attach themselves to the fervor of faith in an attempt to build their own power and egos.
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Something something leopards eating faces
Don’t be an idiot, don’t trust them.
just a hunch, but even with this ‘condemnation’, you can probably count the number of democrat votes among those ‘over 12k’ on one hand, without opening your fist.
