With fighting raging around Khan Younis and in the north of Gaza, a video has emerged on social media showing dozens of Palestinian men detained by Israel.

  • AmosBurton@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Displacement? Both northen and suthern israel has evacuated settlements and citys.

    Shall we discuss the financial and economical toll that israel is paying? They will have years of depression after this.

    What Hamas did was horrible, but shall we not expect a bit higher standards from Israel?

    Why would you expect this?

    Didn’t they actively cause a humanitarian catastrophe affecting 2.4Mln people…

    No, supplies have been pooring into gaza. Hamas were redirecting them to the goal of israels destruction(and they are still stealing suppies from civilians. You can find videos of this.). Unrwa, Unicef, and the red cross were supposed to rais the flag of this happening, but insted they pointed the easy finger at israel. This is what lead to the catastrophe, but to this day they take the side of hamas and not the civilians.

    You don’t need to be a genius to see that one evil doesn’t excuse another evil.

    It doesnt excuse it, it calls for it.

    • filister@lemmy.world
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      Oh, can you please answer the following questions:

      • How many Israelis are currently displaced?
      • How many Israelis lost their houses?
      • How many Israelis are living in makeshift tents or sleeping on the floor of hospitals?
      • How many Israelis don’t have access to drinking water, or electricity or fuel or food?
      • How many Israelis needed to evacuate on foot because of lack of fuel?
      • Can displaced Israelis leave Israel easily?
      • How many times did Israelis evacuate?
      • How many Israelis are actively bombed? And by actively bombed I mean hundreds being killed everyday?
      • How many Israelis don’t have access to proper healthcare?

      And now replace Israelis with Gazans and answer the same questions.

      Why would you expect this?

      Oh so now you are openly admitting that Israel isn’t any better than a terrorist organization. Well done mate!

      Saying that 50-60 trucks a day even 200 can satisfy the needs of 2.4Mln people is very hypocritical of you. Don’t forget that Israel isn’t doing anything to alleviate this situation and quite the opposite trying to make it even worse, punishing again civilian population. Mind you there aren’t any established humanitarian corridors, designated safe places, the north is more or less entirely cut and delivering aid there is next to impossible etc. so how easy would be to distribute this aid.

      And speaking of economical recovery, if you think that Israel would have a hard time to recover tell me how much harder that recovery would be in Gaza. Where in the north according to independent estimates 50-60% of the civilian infrastructure is damaged and 20% in the south.

      And by now it is quite obvious that you are extremely biased. But yes, still thinking that Israel are the only victim here and they are not to blame for anything. Not even for the impunity of violent settlers with which they are persecuting Palestinians in the West bank, or any other well documented human rights violations, which all those “corrupted” human rights watch groups have documented.

      You know when everyone is saying that you are not doing enough to protect civilian population in Gaza, even your closest ally the US is saying this is time to look very good in the mirror and ask yourself whether they are all wrong or perhaps you are in the wrong.

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        How many Israelis are currently displaced?

        About 650,000.

        In the 20th century, approximately 900,000 Jews migrated, fled, or were expelled from Muslim-majority countries throughout Africa and Asia. Primarily a consequence of the Israeli Declaration of Independence, the mass movement mainly transpired from 1948 to the early 1970s, with one final exodus of Iranian Jews occurring shortly after the Islamic Revolution in 1979–1980. An estimated 650,000 (72%) of these Jews resettled in Israel.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world

        How many Israelis lost their houses?

        I’m not sure how many homes that 650,000 owned but I suspect a lot of them.


        Your list of grievances are because Palestine is still at war with Israel. To attack a country and not expect reprisals and negative consequences for civilians is pretending the realities of war don’t exist. Peace is the path to ending said grievances.

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          That’s a fat lot of conflation.

          And a whopper of a revisionist history. Israel has been blockading Gaza for nearly 2 decades now. That is an act of war. You don’t get to keep doing that and complain that the other country punched you.

          And war does not justify war crimes. It’s literally in the name.

        • ???@lemmy.worldOP
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          Palestine is still at war with Israel.

          I am now 110% convinced you’re just a troll who spouts incorrect information so that people spend ages educating you on just how dumb and wrong your statements are. A total waste of time.

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        I am saying that israel values its citizens lives, and its enemy does not. With this fact in mind, you cannot compare casualties.

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          You said supplies were pouring into Gaza. This is an obvious lie.

          Why do you lie?

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            Oh? So where did all the supplies for their tunnels come from? Where did all the rockets and guns come from? Where were they getting water, electricity and gasoline for the past 17 years?

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              We know for a fact that humanitarian aid going into Gaza is not enough. It’s not pouring in. That’s a lie and you have nothing to prove it. A militant group stockpiling supplies for itself has nothing to do with 2.3mil starving people.

              But to answer your question referring the 17 last years, since maybe you missed the memo, but apparently Israel and Bibi are those who funded Hamas.

              Otherwise, Israel denied hospitals and dying patients electricity, bombed their solar panels, blew up their infrastructure including access to oxygen.

              No, supplies are not pouring into Gaza, just lies pouring our of your mouth.

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      It doesn’t excuse it, it calls for it.

      Thanks, Hitler.