I used to run a Magic: the Gathering shop right when it opened. We had great prices, great prizes, a phenomenal gaming area, and since I was the only employee I knew the customer service was top notch.
None of that would have mattered, though, if people didn’t know I existed. I knew I could eventually rely on word of mouth to grow my community, but I still had to get the first customers in the door for the first time.
And coming at it from the other side, lots of online services that we use for “free” are paid for by ads being shown to us. If those ads were banned, we would see large upsets in how those services are paid for. There’s potential for good here, since one possible response could be subsidization and commodification of websites like YouTube, reddit, and Facebook, but who knows what the chances of that could be.
Fine, Let’s centralize where ads are shown then. Rather than plastering them across the internet and ruining, just have ads.com. It can even have location-specific ads.
That doesn’t really solve the problem. Nobody will ever willingly go look for ads, meaning the reach is near zero. Modern marketing has largely moved on from the “reach as many people as possible” to “targeted ads reaching the majority of a demographic”, but the core tenant still relies on reach
That is one of the things I really like about the rise of streaming services. You can actually pay to avoid ads, which means that, so far, my kids have basically had a childhood free of TV commercials.
Honestly I’m just wondering what would count as advertisement for this, because it effectively bans any form of political campaigning, by candidates or ballot measure groups, except through public speaking events.
You could even say door to door sales and solicitation would be banned, which immediately drags the law into a knock down drag out with the Mormons and JWs, because otherwise they can’t send their impressionable young members out to be screamed at and treated like nuisances so they come back to the fold jaded about “worldly” folks.
If ads work, that means you’re manipulating minors. Not acceptable.
If ads don’t work, that means you’re wasting your money.
Either way, there’s no reason advertising targeted to to minors should be allowed.
The advertisers believe that targeting ads to kids is effective to manipulate kids to drive purchases of their products. That’s fucking diabolical. Anyone who’s in the industry and thinks this is OK needs to be taken to a farm.
Kids ads are just extra fucking annoying and they should be banned for that.
“You’re a girl. Here’s sparkly princess. (Wooooooow! Her head moves!) Help her get to the the ball at Fuckington Castle. (She’s almost late! The prince will miss her!). Collect all of.her best friends and brushes. (She made it! Wow, stunning entrance! Everyone noticed). 🎶Sparkly Princess of Fuckingtoooon./🎶”
“You’re a boy. My over raspy surfer dude voice from 1992 is all you need to listen to right now. Look at this gun. It’s called Bruisinator. Dominate the battlefield with your friends! (They’re pushing through! They won’t get far! Pew Pew pew pew). Bruisinator lights up with an optical laser and gives tactical commands! (We’re surrounded Bruisinator, what do we do?!..“Nice shot!”… What?) Part of the Havoc collection. Be a man. Batteries sold separately.”
And I’m like… Why am I seeing this? I don’t even have kids and I don’t particularly like them. Who are these grown ups doing the voice overs and how funny do their faces look when they’re trying to be like this? Is it possible to get toys for kids that don’t want a gender role? Why does a seven year old need to toilet train a toy that pees itself? I wonder if any of the kids chucked a massive tantrum on set? These are no different to ads from the 80s, 90, and 00s. They seriously don’t change. I wonder how many children are now crying at their parents and screaming “I hate you!” because their parents won’t get the Sparkly Princess or the Fuckington Castle?
I saw one supermarket in my area cover all cartoon characters or similar kid-targeting images on products with stickers saying something like “we don’t market to children.”
Let’s ban any ads targeted towards kids.
Let’s ban ads. Period.
Eh. Some level of advertising is necessary.
I used to run a Magic: the Gathering shop right when it opened. We had great prices, great prizes, a phenomenal gaming area, and since I was the only employee I knew the customer service was top notch.
None of that would have mattered, though, if people didn’t know I existed. I knew I could eventually rely on word of mouth to grow my community, but I still had to get the first customers in the door for the first time.
And coming at it from the other side, lots of online services that we use for “free” are paid for by ads being shown to us. If those ads were banned, we would see large upsets in how those services are paid for. There’s potential for good here, since one possible response could be subsidization and commodification of websites like YouTube, reddit, and Facebook, but who knows what the chances of that could be.
Fine, Let’s centralize where ads are shown then. Rather than plastering them across the internet and ruining, just have ads.com. It can even have location-specific ads.
Why would anyone ever go to ads.com lol
If you’re actually looking for a product, it would be like a huge Internet marketplace
Alright we also make it so all porn is on ad.com.
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That doesn’t really solve the problem. Nobody will ever willingly go look for ads, meaning the reach is near zero. Modern marketing has largely moved on from the “reach as many people as possible” to “targeted ads reaching the majority of a demographic”, but the core tenant still relies on reach
It solves my problem of not having to see them when I don’t want to.
I feel that google already perfectly fits this function.
The only other issue is every other tech company wants to share Google’s pie.
Mmmm, spicy but it needs something.
Oh fuck! Yup, all done now. Wow! Whew!
Let’s start with billboards.
They’re about the only ads I see anymore
I wish but I don’t see the industry going down without a fight, starting with kids would be a reasonable first step towards the destruction of ads.
That is one of the things I really like about the rise of streaming services. You can actually pay to avoid ads, which means that, so far, my kids have basically had a childhood free of TV commercials.
Honestly I’m just wondering what would count as advertisement for this, because it effectively bans any form of political campaigning, by candidates or ballot measure groups, except through public speaking events.
You could even say door to door sales and solicitation would be banned, which immediately drags the law into a knock down drag out with the Mormons and JWs, because otherwise they can’t send their impressionable young members out to be screamed at and treated like nuisances so they come back to the fold jaded about “worldly” folks.
Let’s just ban ads. Marketing alone has done irreparable damage to society as a whole.
If ads work, that means you’re manipulating minors. Not acceptable.
If ads don’t work, that means you’re wasting your money.
Either way, there’s no reason advertising targeted to to minors should be allowed.
The advertisers believe that targeting ads to kids is effective to manipulate kids to drive purchases of their products. That’s fucking diabolical. Anyone who’s in the industry and thinks this is OK needs to be taken to a farm.
I didn’t even know ads aimed at kids weren’t banned. You guys ban kinder eggs but not ads?
Kids ads are just extra fucking annoying and they should be banned for that.
“You’re a girl. Here’s sparkly princess. (Wooooooow! Her head moves!) Help her get to the the ball at Fuckington Castle. (She’s almost late! The prince will miss her!). Collect all of.her best friends and brushes. (She made it! Wow, stunning entrance! Everyone noticed). 🎶Sparkly Princess of Fuckingtoooon./🎶”
“You’re a boy. My over raspy surfer dude voice from 1992 is all you need to listen to right now. Look at this gun. It’s called Bruisinator. Dominate the battlefield with your friends! (They’re pushing through! They won’t get far! Pew Pew pew pew). Bruisinator lights up with an optical laser and gives tactical commands! (We’re surrounded Bruisinator, what do we do?!..“Nice shot!”… What?) Part of the Havoc collection. Be a man. Batteries sold separately.”
And I’m like… Why am I seeing this? I don’t even have kids and I don’t particularly like them. Who are these grown ups doing the voice overs and how funny do their faces look when they’re trying to be like this? Is it possible to get toys for kids that don’t want a gender role? Why does a seven year old need to toilet train a toy that pees itself? I wonder if any of the kids chucked a massive tantrum on set? These are no different to ads from the 80s, 90, and 00s. They seriously don’t change. I wonder how many children are now crying at their parents and screaming “I hate you!” because their parents won’t get the Sparkly Princess or the Fuckington Castle?
Well I don’t know what that says about me but please sign me up for a Bruisinator or three for Christmas.
I saw one supermarket in my area cover all cartoon characters or similar kid-targeting images on products with stickers saying something like “we don’t market to children.”
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Agreed, no candy, no video games, no TikTok stuff all of it.