“What would it mean for your business if you could target potential clients who are actively discussing their need for your services in their day-to-day conversations? No, it's not a Black Mirror episode—it's Voice Data, and CMG has the capabilities to use it to your business advantage.”
The company added that it does not “listen to any conversations or have access to anything beyond a third-party aggregated, anonymized and fully encrypted data set that can be used for ad placement” and “regret[s] any confusion.”
We know what you’re thinking. Is this even legal? The short answer is: yes. It is legal for phones and devices to listen to you. When a new app download or update prompts consumers with a multi-page terms of use agreement somewhere in the fine print, Active Listening is often included.
The Ars article literally analyzes this exact claim and shows that it was over-exaggerated marketing to mislead advertisers, and when they were called out for their bullshit CMG pulled their crap from the Internet — you even link to an archive.org page, which corroborates what happened.
Selectively ignoring contradictory evidence in favor of evidence that supports your argument is cherry-picking.
According to the company this is all from regular 3rd party stuff. Being legal or not is beside the point when you are not actually doing something.
You’re argument is based on what a marketing company put in their marketing.
Read the article, with clarifications from the company
ETA : if this were true I would either see it in my firewall logs, or it would blow through my data cap in a week. Surveillance capitalism is bullshit, this is just a grift.
Fight as long as you want, when they were called out on it they backed off. The technical aspects of this are not trivial, nor is the amount of data needed as anyone who has had an Alexa or similar spyware in their house will tell you.
Like I said
if this were true I would either see it in my firewall logs, or it would blow through my data cap in a week.
if this were true I would either see it in my firewall logs, or it would blow through my data cap in a week.
Audio is literally trivial amounts of bandwidth. You wouldn’t notice it at all. Using something like Opus, you could stream audio 24/7 and reach about 300MBs uploaded. Now do some basic trimming/word processing… That number can easily be less than 10MB a day.
The advertisement literally tells you that they’re doing it… The fuck are talking about it’s made up? (https://www.cmglocalsolutions.com/blog/active-listening-an-overview as an example)
Dec 14, 2023 (https://www.404media.co/cmg-cox-media-actually-listening-to-phones-smartspeakers-for-ads-marketing/) is months ago? Shit man… What the fuck are you high on?
I still wouldn’t believe it. Even the 404 article does not confirm anything and the ad company does not provide any details.
This whole thing feels like marketing, claiming something outrageous to get people talking about your company.
That’s entirely possible. But they did say it themselves on their own site. Look at the link I’ve posted in response to the other guy.
Even if they’re just joking about it they deserve all the negative press they’ll get.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/12/no-a-marketing-firm-isnt-tapping-your-device-to-hear-private-conversations/
Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20231214235444/https://www.cmglocalsolutions.com/blog/active-listening-an-overview
So what were you saying?
The Ars article literally analyzes this exact claim and shows that it was over-exaggerated marketing to mislead advertisers, and when they were called out for their bullshit CMG pulled their crap from the Internet — you even link to an archive.org page, which corroborates what happened.
Selectively ignoring contradictory evidence in favor of evidence that supports your argument is cherry-picking.
Did you read the article? No, you did not.
According to the company this is all from regular 3rd party stuff. Being legal or not is beside the point when you are not actually doing something.
You’re argument is based on what a marketing company put in their marketing.
Read the article, with clarifications from the company
ETA : if this were true I would either see it in my firewall logs, or it would blow through my data cap in a week. Surveillance capitalism is bullshit, this is just a grift.
Seems funny how you keep saying from the company as if somehow asking s murderer with red bloody hands if they did it is somehow a creditable source
But your response is
So what the company says isn’t good enough… Except when it’s in your favor? You realize that both statement are “from the company”.
Fight as long as you want, when they were called out on it they backed off. The technical aspects of this are not trivial, nor is the amount of data needed as anyone who has had an Alexa or similar spyware in their house will tell you.
Like I said
Audio is literally trivial amounts of bandwidth. You wouldn’t notice it at all. Using something like Opus, you could stream audio 24/7 and reach about 300MBs uploaded. Now do some basic trimming/word processing… That number can easily be less than 10MB a day.