Just wanted to share my happiness.
AIO is the new (at least on my timeline) installation method of Nextcloud, where most of the heavy-lifting is taken care of automatically.
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curl -fsSL https://get.docker.com | sudo shJesus Ritchie Christ, can we de-normalize ‘run anonymous superscript as root’ bullshit? It’s dumb when Oracle does it, it’s dumb when SuSE does it. It’s dumb all the time.
I could never get the AIO setup to work well for some reason. It was also a couple versions behind it seemed.
I…uh…know it’s not popular on the fed, but I use the nextcloud snap package and it’s been rock solid. It’s always up -to-date and they have a backup/export feature too.
People talk a lot of smack on snap, but installed the nextcloud snap 5 years ago to check out nextcloud and see if I liked it. I did, and the snap was so easy that it stuck around for 5 years. I didn’t do anything except update the underlying OS. It is really well maintained.
I just migrated off of it to get a little more flexability, but I have nothing but good things to say about it.
Any tips or tricks for your migration? I don’t have any plans in the near future but I never found a super clear path to migrate off.
That’s the only downside i have for the snap at the moment.
I couldn’t make things easy for myself when I migrated, because I wanted to use postgres, while the snap uses mysql/mariadb and I wanted S3 storage instead of file system.
In the end I just pulled down all the user filed and exported the calendars and contacts manually, then imported them on the new instance.
There are some blog posts on migrating db types, but my install is very minimal and I just didn’t want the headache.
If you don’t want to change the database type, then you can just dump the db from the snap, backup the user file directory, then restore into the new database and rsync up all the files.
I feel like that is what snaps are for, long running server applications.
Didn’t knew it exists. That might make me give nextcloud another chance. Thanks man.
Welcome. I use it in conjunction with Fedora CoreOS so I hopefully never have to manually update anything ever again.
I was about to ask why this is better than the docker installation, but I see step one is to install docker haha.
I’ve been running the docker container for a long time, it works very well. It is a bit more complicated if you try and use extensions that require seperatw containers (like setting up collabora), but that can be done as well. It’s just more complicated.
I do remember needing to know how to access the internal terminal a few times, but I don’t remember why. If I think of it I’ll come back and add instructions.
Edit: It’s to be able to run occ commands:
Sudo docker exec -u www-data nextcloud-app php occ “Command goes here”
Sudo docker exec -u www-data nextcloud-app php occ files:scan --all
With AIO it’s almost the same:
sudo docker exec -u www-data nextcloud-aio-nextcloud php occAs a former self-configured docker compose NC user, I have to say I’m way happier with the AIO. But still, the older docker method was head and shoulders over any other method of running NC that I’d used.
This is all in one container? That is the exact wrong way to use docker.
No, you give the AIO container access to your docker daemon and it will create / handle / supervise all the other containers nextcloud needs.
Love me some docker compose! I switched from a manually built VM over to the AIO setup about a year ago and never looked back. It’s been rock solid for me and my ~10 users so far.
I appreciate the simplicity, but giving such broad permissions makes me unease and the main reason why I’m putting off moving to Nextcloud AIO. Am I the only one who thinks like this?
Its OK if you have a dedicated VM just for nexcloud
Damn, why not use k8s at that point
It containerizes all the subcomponents under a mastercontainer, and even has support for community containers of things like pihole, caddy and dlna. So you have image control over each component, as well as codespace separation.
After 7 or 8 years of various forms of Nextcloud, I have to say this is the easiest one to maintain, upgrade and backup outside of my VM snapshots.
So it’s sub containers?
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Not really, it just makes containers in your docker, accessible like any others. The mastercontainer can be used to control and update them, but you can just
exec -ditthem like any other containers you find in yourdocker ps
I’m still using the self hosted docker image, the all in one is too bloated for me and my computing resources are quite limited. Why would I like an antivirus? Or a backup solution different than the one I use to backup the rest of my containers?
Cool initiative anyway for other kind of users though.
Running the AV container is optional, as is using the integrated backup solution. But I can see how that might feel bloated if you don’t need it.
One of the first services on my server was nextcloud in docker container from lsio. Never had problems so there was no need to try AIO, but so many people recommend that, it will be my next setup if this one fails me
I decided to go with this one because it’s now the official distribution channel and supported by the devs. But the lsio one looks pretty solid as well.
I wish I could’ve like next cloud more, but it seemed bloated as all hell and was slow regardless of what machine I tried running it on :(. I might give it another go one day.
Whats this used for?
Nextcloud is a web-based, open-source cloud / collaboration software suite, which can be self-hosted
I’m setting it up. Only having some issues with proxy manager and cloudfare combo.
This has helped me a lot in my scenario.
Yes thanks. I’m using it already but for now can’t get it working.
Yes I’ve not managed to solve this yet. For me, it’s hosting AIO behind my existing Nginx.
Behind existing Nginx? Do you mean that you are not using Nginx and only cloudfare tunnel?
As in, I have Nginx running on my server and use it as a reverse proxy to access a variety of apps and services. But can’t get it playing nicely with AIO Nextcloud.
That’s my issue too.
