The 2016 to 2021 leftist protest movements were effective not because they worked on Trump, but because they worked on Democratic law makers to show they had support for visibly resisting Trumps policies. As a result of resistance from the minority/ opposition party, along with internal incompetencies, Trump got basically almost nothing in that first term.
Since then the opposition party has shown that they did not value or prioritize litterally anything the protest movements were focusing on, instead prioritizing corporate donor priorities and a diet Republican approach to change. The core of the Democratic party were abandoned by Democrats in the period of 2020 to 2024.
Three Supreme Court justices. Massive tax cuts for the rich and corporations. I’d say he got plenty done, though luckily not everything for the reasons you point out (and others). Next four years are going to be rough.
Yup, and this is why Democrats lose. They are allergic to actually supporting the party’s real accomplishments and prefer to throw stones and circle the firing squad. Democrats need to learn how to play the game. There is too much of this fart sniffing on the left these days.
My gut says “that’s probably true, but that doesn’t mean much.” Let me pick it apart.
LBJ attempted his War on Poverty and Great Society, and while it didn’t go as far as he wanted, he still got some good stuff out the door. Food stamps, medicare, medicaid, minimum wage, just to name a few. No contest compared to everybody that came later.
Nixon was a Republican, and I’ll skip all of them because by this point in history they would never be as economically progressive as Biden.
Ford was a Republican.
Carter ran on being socially liberal and economically conservative. Outside of minor policy like the Community Reinvestment Act, there’s no help there, obviously.
Reagan was a Republican.
Clinton ran on the Third Way, which was sort of what Carter did but even more disastrous. Notable policy included gutting welfare and widespread deregulation.
W was a Republican.
Obama got ACA passed and used an obviously Keynesian approach to economic recovery with the recession he was given, pulling away from Clinton’s conservative Third Way.
Trump was a Republican.
Biden did a similar Keynesian approach to economics.
I would assume your statement hinges largely on the “biggest infrastructure bill” type rhetoric, because he didn’t do anything new, he just continued to fund things that the government needs to fund in order for the country to operate. He sure spent a lot, but whether that’s the metric we should be using for most progressive is up for debate.
Personally, I’d say Obama was more progressive because he actually did something substantial and new with the ACA, but it doesn’t put him in another tier above Biden. Of course, neither comes remotely close to LBJ.
What that statement really shows is how far the government has fallen from even attempting to provide value for people.
Which ones had a bigger record of progressive economic accomplishments than Biden? Closest one is Obama, but his Recovery Act was less than half the size of Biden’s Rescue/Infra/IRA/CHIPS packages. Biden was also more strongly pro-union and pro-regulation, and accomplished his many wins in half the time and with far narrower majorities in both houses.
Howard Shultz doesn’t think so. Neither does Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, or any of the other ghouls that prefer to violate union rules. Doesn’t mean you have to like the guy to admit the obvious.
They just weren’t the right Billionaires. Biden gave gifts to the railroads, auto industry, and construction. They don’t like to jump up and down on stages but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
And yeah he taxed them a little bit but their wealth still grew at record pace under Biden while middle America is struggling to buy cereal. I don’t care how much the guy says he loves unions, if Union members can’t get a house then it doesn’t matter does it?
The 2016 to 2021 leftist protest movements were effective not because they worked on Trump, but because they worked on Democratic law makers to show they had support for visibly resisting Trumps policies. As a result of resistance from the minority/ opposition party, along with internal incompetencies, Trump got basically almost nothing in that first term.
Since then the opposition party has shown that they did not value or prioritize litterally anything the protest movements were focusing on, instead prioritizing corporate donor priorities and a diet Republican approach to change. The core of the Democratic party were abandoned by Democrats in the period of 2020 to 2024.
Three Supreme Court justices. Massive tax cuts for the rich and corporations. I’d say he got plenty done, though luckily not everything for the reasons you point out (and others). Next four years are going to be rough.
This would be a compelling argument if the Biden administration hadn’t been the most economically progressive since LBJ.
The problem is that he is the most progressive and did so little that people didn’t notice anything at all.
Yup, and this is why Democrats lose. They are allergic to actually supporting the party’s real accomplishments and prefer to throw stones and circle the firing squad. Democrats need to learn how to play the game. There is too much of this fart sniffing on the left these days.
It’s by design. Keep em arguing amongst themselves
My gut says “that’s probably true, but that doesn’t mean much.” Let me pick it apart.
LBJ attempted his War on Poverty and Great Society, and while it didn’t go as far as he wanted, he still got some good stuff out the door. Food stamps, medicare, medicaid, minimum wage, just to name a few. No contest compared to everybody that came later.
Nixon was a Republican, and I’ll skip all of them because by this point in history they would never be as economically progressive as Biden.
Ford was a Republican.
Carter ran on being socially liberal and economically conservative. Outside of minor policy like the Community Reinvestment Act, there’s no help there, obviously.
Reagan was a Republican.
Clinton ran on the Third Way, which was sort of what Carter did but even more disastrous. Notable policy included gutting welfare and widespread deregulation.
W was a Republican.
Obama got ACA passed and used an obviously Keynesian approach to economic recovery with the recession he was given, pulling away from Clinton’s conservative Third Way.
Trump was a Republican.
Biden did a similar Keynesian approach to economics.
I would assume your statement hinges largely on the “biggest infrastructure bill” type rhetoric, because he didn’t do anything new, he just continued to fund things that the government needs to fund in order for the country to operate. He sure spent a lot, but whether that’s the metric we should be using for most progressive is up for debate.
Personally, I’d say Obama was more progressive because he actually did something substantial and new with the ACA, but it doesn’t put him in another tier above Biden. Of course, neither comes remotely close to LBJ.
What that statement really shows is how far the government has fallen from even attempting to provide value for people.
Oh God that was a good laugh. Do another joke!
Democratic presidents since LBJ:
Which ones had a bigger record of progressive economic accomplishments than Biden? Closest one is Obama, but his Recovery Act was less than half the size of Biden’s Rescue/Infra/IRA/CHIPS packages. Biden was also more strongly pro-union and pro-regulation, and accomplished his many wins in half the time and with far narrower majorities in both houses.
Yup Biden sure was great for Billionaires. No argument there.
Howard Shultz doesn’t think so. Neither does Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, or any of the other ghouls that prefer to violate union rules. Doesn’t mean you have to like the guy to admit the obvious.
They just weren’t the right Billionaires. Biden gave gifts to the railroads, auto industry, and construction. They don’t like to jump up and down on stages but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
And yeah he taxed them a little bit but their wealth still grew at record pace under Biden while middle America is struggling to buy cereal. I don’t care how much the guy says he loves unions, if Union members can’t get a house then it doesn’t matter does it?