• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Fuck off Joe, you’re slightly better than Hillary because you did eventually listen to reason.

    But he should have said years ago he wasn’t going to run in 2024.

    Hell, even if he just said it 6 months ago we could have had a real primary

    It’s good he finally did the right thing, but he came damn close to not. He’s not a hero because he stopped doing the wrong thing at the last possible second. A week ago he wouldn’t stop rambling about “Lord God” was the only one that could make him drop

    Dude is off the deep already, and has been for a while.

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      6 months ago

      nah. i won’t call him a “hero” but this is the best way it could have happened, rather than republicans having YEARS to foment hatred and spin conspiracy theories and make everyone waste time debunking lie after lie about harris.

      and nobody’s going to switch from D to R because it’s harris instead of biden. you can be fairly certain, however, that there WILL be people voting who weren’t going to vote at all when it was biden instead of harris

      should he be applauded? yes. is he a hero? no. should he have announced it years ago? no fucking way.

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        6 months ago

        but this is the best way it could have happened

        The best way was this happening a year ago so we could have a primary…

        But you don’t think Dem voters should have had a say?

        I’m a lot more democratic than you apparently…

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          6 months ago

          LOL good job parroting fox news’s desperate “bIdEn ChEaTeD tHe DeMs!!!” talking points. i’ll bet you’re doing it for free too.

          news flash-- biden isn’t running, and you could have voted for anyone you wanted in the primary. so this entire “debate” about biden’s shoulda/woulda/coulda, while entertaining to obliterate people in, is getting the tankie position exactly nowhere

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            6 months ago

            What?

            So if Faux News says we didn’t get a real primary…

            We have to lie and say we did?

            That’s Trumper logic man

            Have fun with that.

            Edit:

            and you could have voted for anyone you wanted in the primary.

            In my state (and others) Biden was the only Dem on the primary ballot…

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              LOL why weren’t you and the apparently millions of other like minded yous mobilizing to either get someone else on the ballot, or writing in someone else?

              or were you just accepting what you were told to, like you’re accusing everyone else of doing now?

              again–what do you think you’re going to accomplish with all of these sad desperate dEmScHeAtEd attacks? making people not vote now?

              have fun with that

              btw: voter registrations for 18-34 year olds surged AFTER harris became the nominee. that means people are registering specifically to vote for harris. does that grind your gears? LOL

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                again–what do you think you’re going to accomplish

                Did you not see what happened to the Republican party when they stopped holding their politicians accountable?

                Why are you trying to make the democratic party just as shitty?

                btw: voter registrations for 18-34 year olds surged AFTER harris became the nominee. that means people are registering specifically to vote for harris. does that grind your gears? LOL

                No…

                It’s a good thing, I’ve spent over a year saying Biden and Hillary are the only two who could.lose to trump…

                I’m glad Biden finally listened to people who knew what he was talking about about. But I’m still mad that he waited so long we didn’t get a primary.

                You seem to be operating under football logic where people pick a team and only say good things about them.

                Which again, is what made the Republican party into what it is today.

                So I ask again, why do you want both major parties to act like Republicans?

                If youre not gonna answer, there’s no point in me wasting time with you.

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                  6 months ago

                  Your argument here might hold some weight if it weren’t for the fact that the only reason this conversation is even happening is that the presumptive Democratic candidate just voluntary withdrew from the race when it became clear that he couldn’t win. The last guy staged a fucking coup after he lost.

                  How many months did you just spend bitching and moaning about how anyone would be better than Joe? Now you have anyone else and you’re still salty about it. I wonder how you could make it any more transparent that your goal is just to discourage people from voting.

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          Looks like we’re back in full “you can’t criticize the Democrats at all or you’re a Russian troll” territory. I hate this sycophancy.

          I’m with you on this one. The Democrats have been skirting democracy to the best of their ability for years. I’m glad we’ve got a better chance of defeating Trump now, but I’m unwilling to concede the democratic process of nominating candidates. If we celebrate this fucked up process instead of holding their feet to the fire, they’re just going to learn that actually they don’t need to bother involving the people at all. We cannot give a single inch to the plutocrats at the top.