That’s not true though. I am a skilled machine operator, and I was hired with zero experience and trained on the job because there just aren’t enough trained operators locally available in my industry.
Unskilled work means you don’t need prior experience or specific education to apply.
It means whatever the employers want it to mean. But anyone who has worked anywhere for a significant length of time knows the value experience brings in a role.
Whether you’re packing boxes or picking fruit or doing brain surgery, the speed and accuracy of your work is predicated on experience. Not something you get through a crash course or a certificate. You have to do the work to learn the work in every field.
OK what do you propose we call it when there is a job that literally requires prior experience or certifications vs a job that doesn’t?
Any job can be regulated.
In Texas, cosmetology students must complete a minimum of 1,000 hours of instruction at an accredited beauty school to become licensed.
In Oregon, no such license is required.
Does this mean a cosmetologist’s status as “skilled worker” evaporates upon stepping off a plane from Houston to Portland?
Because you cannot tell me that it’s OK to hire anyone and teach them brain surgery on the job.
That’s exactly what professional hospital surgeries do. They identify candidates for hire and train them with their veteran staff.
Nobody is born knowing brain surgery. Nobody is born with a number of successful surgeries under their belts. Everyone starts from square one.
What makes brain surgery different from HVAC repair isn’t skill, its liability. If you fuck up a unit then you’ve caused a few hundred dollars in damage. If you fuck up a brain, you kill someone.
But they both require skill and experience to do reliably and efficiently.
That sure sounds like what would qualify as “unskilled labour”. It basically means that the pool of employees is every healthy adult human being and you can be nearly instantly replaced if needed.
There is no such thing as unskilled work
How could you say that? This is landlord erasure
I believe they prefer to be called “persons of land”. /s
if only
That’s not work.
You’re right. It goes beyond work. It’s a service to humanity.
I have been in an argument with a landlord before. They were arguing that it was a real job because of all the paperwork. I was just like… bruh
Paperwork is only a job if you’re a lawyer or an accountant.
Everytime unskilled work is mentioned, someone feels the need to comment that ackchually all work requires skill.
Unskilled work means you don’t need prior experience or specific education to apply. You will be trained on the job.
That’s not true though. I am a skilled machine operator, and I was hired with zero experience and trained on the job because there just aren’t enough trained operators locally available in my industry.
Ah … It might mean that, but for many rich bosses it means “a job that pays less” and that’s all.
It means whatever the employers want it to mean. But anyone who has worked anywhere for a significant length of time knows the value experience brings in a role.
Whether you’re packing boxes or picking fruit or doing brain surgery, the speed and accuracy of your work is predicated on experience. Not something you get through a crash course or a certificate. You have to do the work to learn the work in every field.
That’s what makes “unskilled” labor a myth.
OK what do you propose we call it when there is a job that literally requires prior experience or certifications vs a job that doesn’t?
Because you cannot tell me that it’s OK to hire anyone and teach them brain surgery on the job.
I like the term “specialized” vs “unspecialized”. It better describes what it actually means.
Any job can be regulated.
In Texas, cosmetology students must complete a minimum of 1,000 hours of instruction at an accredited beauty school to become licensed.
In Oregon, no such license is required.
Does this mean a cosmetologist’s status as “skilled worker” evaporates upon stepping off a plane from Houston to Portland?
That’s exactly what professional hospital surgeries do. They identify candidates for hire and train them with their veteran staff.
Nobody is born knowing brain surgery. Nobody is born with a number of successful surgeries under their belts. Everyone starts from square one.
What makes brain surgery different from HVAC repair isn’t skill, its liability. If you fuck up a unit then you’ve caused a few hundred dollars in damage. If you fuck up a brain, you kill someone.
But they both require skill and experience to do reliably and efficiently.
So installing HVAC systems is unskilled work? I didn’t have any prior experience or education when I got a job doing that.
And you were able to work on your own with less than a weeks worth of OJT?
Actually it was about a week and it was other apprentices that did the majority of the training.
That sure sounds like what would qualify as “unskilled labour”. It basically means that the pool of employees is every healthy adult human being and you can be nearly instantly replaced if needed.
And framing labor this way totally disregars the time commitment. Which should be a thriving wage for any hob that requires 40hrs/week
I think the spelling in this reply actually tells the story
Disappointed in your lack of punctuation. It really speaks to your absence of moral character.
Hey now, don’t buy management long
Well, there’s Amazon packing, where they recently sent me three cards in an A3 by 4" box. Ain’t no way you could call that “skilled”.