• TheBeege@lemmy.world
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    Do you have any qualifiers for that? Like “with sufficient time to learn” or something? Is there some kind of personal development that you think could enable that?

    In my understanding, asking a chef to be a doctor or a software engineer to be an artist often doesn’t work great.

    How selective do you think is appropriate?

    To be clear: I’m a hiring manager for some specialized stuff. I’m genuinely curious about your perspective because I hope it can help how I do that work. I’m not trying to argue with you or prove you wrong or anything.

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      Given enough time.

      Obviously professions that take years to study have that barrier to entry.

      But if your job isn’t life or death most likely they will already have to teach you everything you need to know on the job.

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        Got it. Okay, that makes much more sense. Nothing new there for me, then.

        When you say companies shouldn’t be “this selective,” what are you referencing that they’re being too selective about? If I’m being more picky than I need to be, I should stop, so I’m eager to learn something here

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          I think collecting applications for months just to tell 99% of applicants they wasted their time is part of what’s making the job market so horrible, that and most job postings being fake.

          For service jobs and really any job that doesn’t require special licenses there’s absolutely no good reason why they shouldn’t hire one of the first to apply instead of holding out.

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            Sorry for the delay, busy days.

            Yeah, fake postings are total bullshit. I still don’t understand the motivation for them.

            As for having jobs up for months, I can understand that when a role has very specific needs. But if the roles specific needs haven’t been made clear in the job description, then yeah, that’s total bullshit

            My job postings are usually up for two to three months, and the rejection rate is maybe around 80-90% for the resume review stage at the beginning. I’d like to think the job descriptions are clear, but that’s subjective. But do those sound like reasonable numbers to you, though? What do you think is reasonable? (Like I said, I want these opinions for my improvement)

            Unfortunately, I haven’t hired for a service job, so I don’t have a complete perspective here. You mention “one of the first to apply.” For an imaginary job that requires no background, what do you think would be good reasons to reject a candidate or choose one over another?

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            oh man, I got rejected so many times from supermarkets and fast food joints while they were still advertising that they were hiring. Absolutely fucked.