That’s not exactly right, by Terminator, the machines are losing the war. That’s the reason they sent the Terminator back to find and kill Sarah Connor before John is born.
Hmmm. That’s canon, and everything I can find confirms it, but I can’t find a source that ignores anything but the original movie; all of the Original Timeline incorporates information from the sequels.
I need to go watch the original again. I still remember that, within the movie, Reese - the only source of information about the future war - says they were winning until Skynet became self-aware, implying that humans stopped winning. Can you find a quote where Reese says they’d defeated Skynet, or were about to? The quotes I found imply otherwise.
To be clear: I’m not debating canon. You’re right - when including all the movies, in the Original Timeline the humans destroy SkyNet. What I said, and still believe, is that in isolation in the first movie Reese does not say humans were winning the Future War, nor had they beaten SkyNet.
That’s not exactly right, by Terminator, the machines are losing the war. That’s the reason they sent the Terminator back to find and kill Sarah Connor before John is born.
Hmmm. That’s canon, and everything I can find confirms it, but I can’t find a source that ignores anything but the original movie; all of the Original Timeline incorporates information from the sequels.
I need to go watch the original again. I still remember that, within the movie, Reese - the only source of information about the future war - says they were winning until Skynet became self-aware, implying that humans stopped winning. Can you find a quote where Reese says they’d defeated Skynet, or were about to? The quotes I found imply otherwise.
To be clear: I’m not debating canon. You’re right - when including all the movies, in the Original Timeline the humans destroy SkyNet. What I said, and still believe, is that in isolation in the first movie Reese does not say humans were winning the Future War, nor had they beaten SkyNet.