• truthfultemporarily@feddit.org
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    13 hours ago

    Imagine you buy a car and it gets burned down because the owner of the car company turns out to be a Nazi.

    I would like Tesla to go bankrupt too but cheering on regular peoples property being destroyed is wrong.

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      7 hours ago

      Hopefully they had bubble insurance and now they’re freed of their magamobile and can buy something better.

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        4 hours ago

        Yeah because insurance companies are run by great people who are known for helping others.

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        the magamobile… i know it has its issues, but the sad thing is, if you want an electric car as a person who does not care about car-people-things, the magamobile is one of the best options in terms of efficiency. ALSO in terms of used vehicles, you can get teslas so bloody cheap rn and for people who just want to get from A to B with Comfort and ease, you dont have so many other options.

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          I hadn’t even considered that this is causing the used market to drop out. We could be urging people who otherwise couldn’t or wouldn’t to adopt EVs. Could turn the negative into a positive.

          Nope the “activists” say, burn em all.

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            yes!!! This is a great thing for the Used Market, especially when considering that the longer you drive an ev (with eco friendly energy) the better the thing is for the planet! GO BUY USED EVs!!! when you have Solar Power@Home (or biogas or whatever you can do to produce electric energy) a cheap used ev is the absolute best option when you need a car.

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      8 hours ago

      it could’ve caught fire on its own, it’s a tesla.

      you should’ve known that when you bought the car too, before you knew about the nazism.

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        3 hours ago

        Yeah ICE cars catch fire 61x more often than EVs.

        Facts are important. We want people to switch to EVs. Spreading falsehoods because it helps your own side short term is wrong.

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      Sure, I have some sympathy for those who bought them years ago.

      But let’s not mince words. If you buy a Tesla today, you are literally a Nazi collaborator.

      Those who bought a Tesla much earlier were more like one of those few people who bought one of Hitler’s paintings during his starving artist phase.

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      13 hours ago

      So many people on social media cheering for vandalizing other people’s private property just because they disagree with the politics of the maker of their cars. Wild.

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          You’re not attacking a billionaire. You are attacking random private citizens.

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              Not everybody has insurance that covers vandalism. Most people have a deductible they need to pay before the insurance kick in. You are forcing people to take time out of their day to take the car to the shop for repairs and/or have to deal with long administrative tasks.

              Premiums would not only go up for future Tesla owners.

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          Specifically his ego, Musk is such a weakling that he sees ANY attack on Tesla as an attack on himself. That may be the point basically using the cars as proxy but the fact he legit gets so upset about it means it’s working. Also as I need to remention Musk is such a fucking weak little bitch that he gets sad when folks burn something his company produces.

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            If they are insured, no.

            Insurance premiums will go up on teslas.

            Then people will buy less tesla.

            Then Musk will get margin called.

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              Premiums going up will hurt regular people more than Musk. Hurting your fellow countrymen is such a lefty thing to do…

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                It will only hurt people who continue to own Teslas when they renew their insurance. They are part of the demographic supporting Musk, so fuckem.

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                  Yeah conservatives were totally the largest market for EVs before Musk took the mask off, right? You people truly have not spent even a microsecond thinking this through.

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                    What? This has nothing to do with politics of the consumer. YOU haven’t thought this through.

                    The point is to damage Musk. If you continue to use his products (rather than sell or scrap) then you are part of the problems.

                    This is true for cars, websites, AI, satellite connectivity etc.

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      Read this thread man. People have become fucking deranged, cheering on destroying the property of people who likely had no reason to believe they’d be making car payments to a Nazi.

      Frankly if you’re not out canvassing for politicians you support or helping organize a union or something but you can find the time to cheer on the destruction of what is likely a worker’s property, you need to get a grip.

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        If you own a Telsa, sell it. It sucks but Muskrat is actually dismantling decades of institutional organization. He’s an threat to our country and when it collapses he’ll just fly to the next country while we burn.

        Flood the market with used Swasticars that nobody wants to be associated with and nobody will buy the new ones. Money is the only thing they understand.

        He’s got the president of the u.s. on the front lawn hucking his cars, it’s hilarious and sad.

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          I don’t own one, but when I was considering which EV to buy they were on the list. I could have easily been just another Tesla owner, now getting their car burnt to a crisp or getting spray painted with Nazi symbols.

          I am a unpaid union executive. I volunteer my time to groups like a Right-to-Repair advocacy organization. If the shitheads burning cars could get this motivated about these or other issues, we’d be knocking problems over like dominoes. Instead “activism” for a lot of people now means complaining on the internet and destroying the property of workers.

          Frankly people need to take that type of activism and fuck right off with it. Do some real work or go home and let the adults figure it out.

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            I do all kinds of work organizing IRL thanks. Do you think the people that set the cars on fire were just online or something? Shitposting is useless, the real ones are taking it offline.

            A bit of advice to an alleged Union man? Get some solidarity and stop supporting fascists scab. Support Unions by buying union-made cars, not ones made by a Union busting fascists.

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                I advised the person claiming to be in a union to do their part and support unions, not union busters.

                I advise solidarity with non-fascists by not supporting anything that puts money into a fascists pocket.

                Personally I think targeting showrooms would be more effective but I’m 100% confident Evil Insurance Companies will make things right for the downtrodden Tesla owners and they can buy a new car. Judging by most people’s reactions, at least a few won’t buy a Tesla.

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              You could petition for adoption of an EV plug that isn’t Tesla’s. You could ask to have the Tesla supercharger network be declared anti-competitive and force Musk to divest. Bonus points if you can convince people it should be a public good.

              Lots of moves could be made. Instead you advocate for bashing the fash by… Burning cars owned by workers? And somehow you fail to see how this is not just morally and logically wrong, it also harms the view of leftists in the eyes of the public?

              Are you a real person or do you glow?

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                The time for petitions and lobbying have passed. Our regulatory agencies have been captured and our politicians bought.

                In the future it’ll only get more and more dangerous to associate with Teslas at all. Anyone who values their personal safety should unload it now.

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          If you own a Telsa, sell it.

          Realistically, this makes no difference. Tesla has already got the money from the seller. The only person losing is the seller who now sells the car at lower price than they bought it for and have to put in more money to buy a replacement vehicle.

          Flood the market with used Swasticars that nobody wants to be associated with and nobody will buy the new ones. Money is the only thing they understand.

          The only ones who will buy Teslas now are conservatives and they will buy new ‘just to show support for Musk’.

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              Who said anything about destroying cars¿? I am just talking about selling them. I do hope the people whose cars were burnt had insurance. Then they could claim that and use it to buy a better car from a non nazi manufacturer.

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                Granted, but I was just pointing out that the act of burning teslas isn’t something that people do to “destroy cars so that Elon gets less money”. Mussolini wasn’t hanged upside down because his heels were stronger than his neck.