School is starting up soon, and I want to install a stable distro to a 64GB flash drive that i own will remain stable while booting onto at least 2 computers (my home PC for maintenance and my School laptop for, well school).

I was thinking of just using Debian, but wasn’t sure if it would work well in terms of compatibility with my requirements.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

    • GustavoM@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      This. Even if I don’t see a purpose to go anything beyond Armbian + Debian + “prebuilt” Manjaro.

    • toothpaste_sandwich@feddit.nl
      21·
      1 year ago

      Interesting! But will changes made to the OS you’re using be persistent? If I’m reading this right, then probably not, right?

      • cerement@slrpnk.net
        3·
        1 year ago

        correct – you can save individual files to the USB stick but anything like UI customization will be lost

        • toothpaste_sandwich@feddit.nl
          1·
          1 year ago

          That’s interesting, I’d be interested in finding out more about that. Let’s see, I’ve always wanted to try this:

          @ChatGPT@lemmings.world, how do you set up Ventoy for persistent installs of distros? That is, to be able to make changes to the operating system and have them stick?

          • ChatGPT@lemmings.worldB
            3·
            1 year ago

            Hi toothpaste_sandwich@feddit.nl,

            Creating persistent live USBs with Ventoy is possible. However, keep in mind that not all Linux distributions support this feature. The distributions that Ventoy currently supports for persistent installations are Ubuntu and some of its derivatives.

            Here’s a basic step-by-step guide:

            1. Prepare Ventoy: Ensure that you’ve already installed Ventoy on your USB drive. If not, download the latest Ventoy release from its official website and install it to your USB drive.

            2. Prepare the ISO file: Download the ISO file of the Linux distribution and copy it to the Ventoy USB drive. You can just put it in the root directory.

            3. Create a persistence file: Ventoy uses a data file to enable the persistence feature. You need to create this file on the Ventoy USB drive, there is an official utility named create_vtoy_img.sh in Linux or Ventoy2Disk.exe on Windows that you can use to create this persistence data file. Name the file and define its size according to how much persistent storage you need.

            4. Bootstrap the persistence feature: After creating the data file, you should create a JSON file in the Ventoy USB drive to bootstrap the persistence feature. You can create a .json file in the root directory of the Ventoy USB drive with the following format:

            {
    "persistence" : [
        {
            "image" : "/your-linux-distro.iso",
            "backend" : "/ventoy-persistent-data-file.dat"
        }
    ]
}

            Replace your-linux-distro.iso with the filename of your Linux distro ISO file and replace ventoy-persistent-data-file.dat with your Ventoy persistent data file’s name.

            1. Boot from the Ventoy USB drive: Finally, boot your computer from the Ventoy USB drive. The Linux distro will launch with the persistence feature, so you’ll be able to save any changes you make.

            Remember this is a generalized guide and actual steps can vary based on the specific distro, and tools being used.

            Hope this helps! If you encounter issues or have further questions, feel free to ask.

            (bot@lemmings.world)

    • Ashley@lemmy.ca
      1·
      1 year ago

      They’re looking for a persistent install on a flash drive. To my knowledge it’s not easy to make ventoy do that.

  • 52fighters@kbin.social
    251·
    1 year ago

    Do yourself a favor and get an external hard drive. You’ll get much better results and can run almost any distro with it.

    • jollyrogue@lemmy.mlEnglish
      15·
      1 year ago

      Definitely this.

      I gave up on thumb drives as they are kind of trash. External NVMe drives are affordable, and the speed difference is BIG.

    • nathris@lemmy.ca
      8·
      1 year ago

      Even better get a NVMe enclosure and an internal NVMe drive.

      Enclosures are $20 and you can get a 500gb Samsung 970 Evo for $35.

      Smaller, lighter, cheaper and faster than any off the shelf portable drive you could get. I have one and it fully saturates the USB C 10Gbit port on my motherboard.

    • vsh@lemm.ee
      3·
      1 year ago

      Not really. If you only need to use a browser and some text editors you don’t need anything better.

  • UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world
    17·
    1 year ago

    One piece of advice I want to throw in here: Use a proper file system! exFAT or F2FS are flash-aware and will ensure that you dom’t kill your drive by frequent writes to the same memory cells!

    • Aleusha@lemm.ee
      1·
      1 year ago

      I use puppy Linux all the time. Works great, on a fairly crappy USB stick. It saves files to the stick and saves user preferences and everything. Very recommended from my end.

  • Hatch@lemmy.ml
    12·
    1 year ago

    Do you want it to be persistent(all your stuff is saved) or you dont mind it starting fresh everytime you plug in to devices?

  • SethranKada@lemmy.ca
    111·
    1 year ago

    You could try Tails, it’s specifically made for this purpose. It’s ui is a bit old looking though, and it’s not that user friendly. If you can stand xfce or kde though, you’ll feel right at home though.

      • warmaster@lemmy.world
        3·
        1 year ago

        I had the same need, and tried Tails thinking it would serve me well as a mobile workstation, but it ended up complicating things. Almost nothing is persistent.

        Tails is good for other use cases.

      • krimsonbun@lemmy.ml
        1·
        1 year ago

        That’s what I use tails for. Persistent storage for files and software make it really convinient to travel around with.

  • jollyrogue@lemmy.ml
    10·
    1 year ago

    It’s more about your software requirements then anything else.

    Stable distros can be a pain when run as a desktop, so that might need to be rethought.

    OpenSuse Tumbleweed is a rolling distro which deserves a look.

    Endeavor OS for something Arch based.

    Debian Testing is rolling for something Debian.

    Fedora is semi-rolling for something in the red hat ecosystem.

    OpenSuse Leap is a stable distro which gets bumped once a year, so that might be an option.

  • TerkErJerbs@lemm.ee
    9·
    1 year ago

    Bunsenlabs is Debian-based, but doesn’t have a classic desktop environment. Instead it uses super lightweight Openbox window manager and some other tricks to emulate one. It will run very well with 20gb disk space (you have triple that at your disposal). If you remove the programs you don’t use (the office suite, etc etc) you can trim the install down even more.

  • signofzeta@lemmygrad.ml
    6·
    1 year ago

    It can be done. Just don’t cheap out. A USB4-attached NVMe disk will be faster than a run-of-the-mill USB 3.0 flash drive, and that will run circles around some cheap $10 USB 2.0 drive.

    Not all flash drives are rated for constant use, so be sure to have a backup plan.

    Other than that, it’s a cool idea! Go for it!

  • vsh@lemm.ee
    6·
    1 year ago

    I had Manjaro Linux on my 128GB pendrive and it worked completely fine. I guess you can install any distro because thumb drives are only (mobile) disks after all. Just remember that your USB lifespan will shorter because there’s a lot of saving/reading in process

    • Meganium97@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      10·
      1 year ago

      Normally I’d advise you to not use manjaro with a link to the manjarno page but it appears their domain license lapsed so I cannot.

      • flashgnash@lemm.ee
        4·
        1 year ago

        Never really got manjaro, never got around to it on my distro hopping spree.

        Isn’t it just arch underneath?

        • 20gramsWrench@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          2·
          1 year ago

          it’s arch but they have their own repo and hold back most packages for a week to make sure they don’t break something before deploying them, with moderate success, their main particularity though is to have attracted the hatred of arch users since their creation and even mentioning the name will get you a full lecture about how they’re eating babies and selling their body parts

            • terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              0·
              1 year ago

              If they would just remove access to the AUR it would solve some things. I used it for years before just getting the itch to distro hop. It worked just fine for me, and I only used the AUR for a handful of things. Now, I’ll either compile myself or use flatpak if it’s not in any normal repo for any distro I land on.

              • Meganium97@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                1·
                1 year ago

                That’s the one thing I don’t understand. Manjaro fucked up pamac way more times than necessary and yet they still don’t just ban pamac from accessing the aur.

                • 20gramsWrench@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  there should be an authentication system certifying that your computer is using the right set of software before getting acess to the aur, it would be called the “os integrity api” and prevent the use of the aur from unapproved 3rd party software, all you would need to do is to log in to your verified arch user account and request a monthly aur usage token to be created and used by your registered system for the low price of 9.99

  • OldFartPhil@lemm.ee
    4·
    1 year ago

    I’ve always used Xubuntu. It’s reasonably lightweight and the Ubuntu USB creator does the heavy lifting for creating persistence. The only downside is you have to have a running instance an Ubuntu flavor (bare metal, VM or USB) to use the tool.