Interesting how the AI flop made the first guy hold his hair
Ah yes, the famous german “4.”
low effort post, please understand
Don’t mind the anti-ai police They are just following orders you Lemmy shitpost isn’t for low effort content you see. They’re not against your message of course, where did you get thatidea?
It just actually looks like shit.
No it doesn’t
No one joins ICE to be a good person.
lol the American west guys were not just like “I’m just following orders” they were like “lets murder all these native people it’s awesome.” Let’s not whitewash that shitty part of our history, fellow whites.
yea the whole point is that “just following orders” is an excuse while they know damn well they’re complying to a fascist regime
The Nazis and ICE were and are the same way, they just try to paint it in a different picture to not look like a bad guy.
Ok, very fair point.
I think that’s the point, it’s not “just follow order”, they’re okay with it. It’s the banality of evil.
It’s not just white people who were “just following orders”
same for the others honestly. ‘i was just following orders’ is just what one says when you get called out for doing heinous shit so you can pass the buck to someone else in your organization.
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“fellow whites”, as if people alive today had anything to do with it. That’s racism, and I hope you can do better.
Shut up forever with that bullshit.
Instead of just calling it “bullshit”, can you please tell me why you disagree?
Because a white guy making fun of white guys isn’t racism. It shouldn’t need to be explained. And that’s just the very basest level of why it isn’t racist.
Well, actually racism isn’t necessarily about treatment. It’s about differentiating between races and ethnicities and putting labels on them.
White can be racist towards white, it just matters less because you are also implicating yourself, so it masks itself to general criticism when it’s negative. If a white called white people something positive you would start searching your nazi label, just in case.
Haha what? I don’t label people who say nice things about white people as a Nazi just inherently. What a crazy thing to imply. I didn’t even call anyone a Nazi.
And yet we benefit from it every single day all the same, while throwing out hands up and screaming “that isn’t on me!”
We’re not responsible for what happened to them then, but we are responsible in what we do about it now. Turning away that responsibility while continuing to reap the benefits is racism.
I don’t inherit the sins of my father solely because of my skin color. Again, that is straight up racism. I don’t call anybody a slave just because their skin is dark. I just showed up here - I didn’t have any say in it, and to suggest that I absorb the wrongdoings of other people just because I have a similar skin color to them is fucked up
I am willing to judge anybody on their actions and the content of their character, and I hope to GOD that I find some genuine people. It’s lonely out here, we don’t need any further division from you or anyone else.
I don’t inherit the sins of my father solely because of my skin color.
Correct. We inherit the responsibility to do what we can to make those wrongs right because of the advantages we are afforded by our historical background.
Because of the family I was born into, I was afforded easy access to food, shelter, and education, and easily able to find success and prosperity. This allows my children the same, and that’s, in large part, a result of history. Those coming from less advantaged socio-economic backgrounds do so because, again at least in part, my distant relatives stole from them to my benefit.
When these issues are divided by skin color, then yes, it is racist to ignore them in their entirety over the argument that we had no direct control over the actions of our forefathers, as we continue to benefit from them today. It’s really some trolley problem stuff: we are advantaged by being the ones hanging out around the lever, not tied to the tracks. When we are asked to switch the tracks, or heaven forbid stop the trolley, we should not respond, “it’s racist to tell me I should be doing something about this! I didn’t build the tracks! I don’t own the trolley!” Okay, cool. But they’re down there, on the tracks, and we’re up here, next to the lever. Call it luck, but by the nature of our birth, we have an advantage that minorities do not. It is not racist to identify that.
You want genuine people, friend, taking the time to try and discuss these perspectives to someone is about as genuine as it gets. It’s not easy to accept that, despite massive personal struggles and relative low wealth and prosperity in a world owned by billionaires, I’ve been at an advantage just because I was born European descendant Caucasian. Don’t mistake disagreement for a lack of authenticity, or being poor of character.
I feel like so much of the disagreement about racism in the US in social media, is a difference between society at large and individuals. Most people aren’t racist (over the top so. However, I alsothink everyone probably has some sliver, however slim, of racism in them). If you travel around this globe of ours, some countries do suck more than others, but people are, for the most part, pretty friendly and welcoming.
That said, I think it’s insincere to believe that the historical trauma of the history of the US has not had lasting generational/racial negative effects.
If I think someone is saying I’m racist because I’m white, I dig in my heals a bit and think, if not say, what the fuck? If I think they are talking about systemic inequality in general, the history, the current data, etc., then I’ve been getting better and better at not having that blood pressure rise in defense and instead start from a point that we probably agree on a lot, and just may have differences in how to address the problem.
A lot of people literally inherited it because of the generational wealth built by whiteness, slavery, and genocide.
Did you even read the rest of that sentence?
Yes, because inherited benefits make a mockery of meritocracy, which is the mechanism through which we tell people they got what they deserve and that we use as a shield when people tell us we need to share. “No, I merited it”
I think the message would be stronger without the ai art
What! How could you tell!?? /s
Yeah, like most such memes I stole it from another post, and as I was looking at it after submitting it hit me that it had that look. Sincerely sorry.
It’s getting better which is scary. Lately it’s harder for me to tell if it’s ai. There are still things by which you can tell but it’s getting harder to spot.
The main giveaways for me are the fact that the sheriff isn’t actually grabbing the man, just holding his fist in front of him and the SS emblem being completely smudged despite being a very easy thing to draw.
AI has this look to it. The text is a dead giveaway. Its a mash of cartoon style that creates this unrecognizable yet familiar facsimile. That, and the details. Details are still smudged.
For me it’s the line weight and the dead-eyed expressions.
None of them are just following orders. All of them take great enjoyment in what they do.
Exactly, even in nazi Germany soldiers could refuse to kill civilians without very harsh consequences. Those who did, enjoyed doing it.
Exactly, even in nazi Germany soldiers could refuse to kill civilians without very harsh consequences.
Tell that to my dead great uncle. Who was a conscript (german soldier), shot and killed on a train transporting people to concentration camps.
Permission to be bad seduces most people
you forgot to add the chinese concentration camps to your AI slop image
This is not a shitpost.
Why are they all hot?
In the 1830s they were doing that shit in the southeast: Georgia, Carolinas, Alabama, and so on. They didn’t really get going clearing the “west” until after the war and into the twentieth century. Geronimo surrendered for the last time in the 1880s, and he died in 1909 as a POW at Ft. Sill. Oklahoma had gained statehood only two years before, in 1907.
Hmmm that refreshing smell of holocaust trivialization in the morning…
Nop, it just smells like you are wrong.
As Whitman shows, the Nuremberg Laws were crafted in an atmosphere of considerable attention to the precedents American race laws had to offer. German praise for American practices, already found in Hitler’s Mein Kampf, was continuous throughout the early 1930s, and the most radical Nazi lawyers were eager advocates of the use of American models. But while Jim Crow segregation was one aspect of American law that appealed to Nazi radicals, it was not the most consequential one. Rather, both American citizenship and antimiscegenation laws proved directly relevant to the two principal Nuremberg Laws—the Citizenship Law and the Blood Law. Whitman looks at the ultimate, ugly irony that when Nazis rejected American practices, it was sometimes not because they found them too enlightened, but too harsh.
Reference: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691172422/hitlers-american-model
leftists being so left they’re right
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