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“I can end it in a day”
That’s what any lazy quitter would say. Mind you : They’re trying to get their own little windfall from this, so it’s probably for the best if they quit.
The implication Is that they’ve tried to achieve peace, when all they’ve done is gaslight the victim while supporting their homicidal rapist.
The EU needs to grow some fucking balls and put their collective militaries into Ukraine. Tell Putin that he has X days to withdraw or he will face the full force of the EU. This is the only logical response to him buying out the USA’s political class, implementing a puppet fascist regime, waging decades of psychological warfare and cyber criminal warfare, plus dozens of other acts of war against the world.
Has everyone forgotten that Putin has shot down commercial airliners, severed undersea cables, used chemical weapons and other illegal war-crime weapons in Syria, poisoned political and intelligence operatives abroad, etc? All of this, in addition to invading a sovereign nation? At this point the EU should be actively — openly — trying to assassinate Putin at every opportunity. Why is there not a billion dollar bounty on his head for anyone in Russia to claim?
Russia has 5k nukes
Russia has the remains of what used to 5k nukes 35 years ago. All with an annual military budget that is less than what the US spends on maintaining their nuclear arsenal and a culture of corruption that is likely the most prevalent in areas like the nuclear arsenal where nobody corrupt ever expected missing maintenance to be noticed.
Sick of Russia holding the world hostage with their crusty nukes.
So? I’m not saying the EU should invade Russia. I’m (mainly) saying the EU should defend Europe.
Do you suggest we negotiate with terrorists now? How far has that gotten us, apart from fractured democracies, and more powerful tyrants? Should we hand over the world to every tyrant who threatens to push the button and start a nuclear war? All the more reason to eliminate the tyrant as far as I am concerned.
Narcissists and psychopaths do not respect the rule of law, or notions of “soft power”. The only thing they understand is violence. If they can’t be forcefully tried and imprisoned for their crimes, they should be neutralized, with extreme prejudice.
Russia is free to go home any day. There is no universe where what you mention is somehow a better play for Russia than simply going home.
We must insure they do not win their war of conquest, otherwise there will simply be more.
France and Germany are both ready to step up to be the new voice of the western world. I will be glad when the US finally finishes falling down the “up” escalator so they can get out of the way of serious peace talk attempts.
I hope it’s not going to be Germany, the policies of their current conservative leadership is why we’re dealing with a lot of these fires.
They are responsible for making the EU reliant enough on Russia that they thought we would stand by and let Ukraine fall. They are responsible for the absolute state of Hungary. The migrant crisis. Bankrupting Greece in the name of austerity. I’m sure the list goes on.
What is the nexus between Germany and Hungary’s autocratic state?
German car manufacturing. VW’s biggest engine factory is in Gyõr, Hungary. BMW is building in Debrecen, then there is also Mercedes. Hungary is also a major battery manufacturer since recently.
Couple that with some other industry, like the only non-Danish Lego factory in the EU for example, or others.
Cutting Hungary out from the customs union would cost a lot of people with a lot of power in the EU a lot of money.
Wouldn’t it cost Hungary more in terms of job losses and economic loss of productivity to the point Germany should be able to leverage Hungary more?
It would, but Orbán isn’t Hungary. You can’t blackmail Orbán with Hungary, he doesn’t care for it beyond using it as a vehicle of power. Hungary is also in a lot of hardship already, so I doubt some more layoffs would be the breaking point.
The factories wouldn’t close immediately, they are huge. Also, China is also building up in Hungary, and it would continue being an important transit and manufacturing hub between China and the EU, even if it was not part of the EU. It’s still on the shortest path between the Belt and Road connections and Germany, and there is no point in either going the Croatia route over the mountains or through Ukraine and Poland, again through mountains and presently, war. It is also chock full of Chinese battery plants that would continue to sell to the EU, because even without being in the trade union, Hungary has the advantage of not giving a shit about environmental regulations for building such plants.
To be honest, this is why every sane Hungarian wants Ukraine to succeed in defending itself, as if we had a Russian border in Transcarpathia, that’s when shit would get real and Orbán would go full Belarus.
I would hope this would be a coalition not a single choice. Putting all of democracy’s eggs in one basket seems too precarious given current circumstances.
It’s time for new leaders to take up the mantle. Germany has tried being the world leader a couple of times but was never truly able to show us how good it could be.
It’s not like you’re actually trying to help asshole.
Lol what efforts?
They had a luxurious outing in some big-oil palace. It’s hard work man, they had to literally, very briefly, walk through the desert
So they’re gonna finally stop supporting Russia?
Can they stop threatening us with a good time?
Good, fuck off trying to squeeze an innocent country in duress
Seriously, the US is behaving like someone walking in the street and all of the sudden they walk into a girl being violently raped and he goes “well I can save you but what is it worth to you? You got any jewelry?” The girl frantically screams for help, and the guy goes “well you didn’t even say thank you for tapping the guy on the shoulder, now you’ll need to give me your grandmother’s jewelry too if you want to help me to stop him”… All the while this guy continues to rape and beat her, and he’s just standing there, saying he’ll help her and that he can stop it in a second but, you know…
EU has become complacent and are now paying the price for it. They need to take the lead and not depend on USA because the US is not a reliable partner. The US will only get involved if it is in their interest.
It is in their interest, they’re unfortunately ruled now by a self-interested Russian puppet.
This is also a marked pivot from “I will end the war day 1.”
Rubio is a horrible sack of shit. What an unctuous turd.
“Nobody knew peacetalks could be so complicated…”
Weak! Can we all just agree Trump is the worst president ever! A weak unqualified leader! Thanks for nothing America 🇺🇸😡
When are they going to start the peace negotiation efforts before they stop them? Cuz all they’re doing is trying to conquer them and steal their resources currently.
Bye, fascista
Maybe it’s a good thing? It’s not like he was doing any good anyway.
That was the plan for this administration all along. Trump is a Russian asset. He has never been interested in helping Ukraine achieve peace.
