I mean, I hear you (we’re both here after all), but honestly, I think this is a bad take and approach (if getting more users is a goal.

It’s not the 90s anymore. And even email services are given to you by your employer or selected from the closest big brand provider (Google etc).

All of which is a far cry from “nerdygardeners.io” administered by some rando anonymous account you’ve never heard of before.

For mainstream success, the instances thing was dead on arrival. Just was and is. Which is fine, the Fedi can be and arguably should be something else.

IMO the success of BlueSky is good for the Fedi. It can take the “let’s be the next mainstream thing” monkey off of its back and just be itself.

Did not know he was insurrection.

Clicked the link hoping for an appropriate skin … you did not disappoint!

Hope it goes well and thanks for fedipact!

On which, if you don’t know the lemmy space … lemmy.world hasn’t (preemptively at least) defed’d from threads, but lemmy.ml has (ages ago) and they have a fediverse community too: !lemmy.ml/c/fediverse.

yea, and I’ve seen it happen personally a few times, it’s really not a big deal at the moment and probably won’t be if/until lemmy grows a few orders of magnitude

In my experience the worst thing about tankies is all the loud anti-tankie noise they attract like this comment.

I’m not one myself, but venom like this very much outweighs anything I’ve found untoward from any tankie here.

Thanks!

Yea. Legal opinions vary and legal scholars can have problems, sometimes massive, with what courts and legislators end up doing. “Legal side of things”, in quotes, was intended to convey a cynicism/critique of the idea, belief or even desire some might have (not saying you) for the law to be “settled” and clear.

Oh I’m sure, and it was a good article to be clear. But “the legal side of things”, especially from a certain perspective, and what the courts (and then the legislature) do with a new-ish issue can be different things.

My immediate reaction to the piece is that insofar as it’s trying to predict the path that the courts will take, the author may be too close to the tech while I can imagine judges readily opting to eschew what they’d feel would be excessive technical details in their reasoning. I’m curious to see how true that is.

For me the essential point, made at the end, is what do creators really want from copyright apart from more money … because any infringement case against AI easily spells oppressive copyright law.

I’m curious to see if a dynamic factor in this is how the courts conceive of what the AI actually is and does. The one byte per work argument may come off as naive for instance and lead a judge construct their own model of what’s happening.

Otherwise, the purposes of this thread and the take I posted from mastodon, I’d say the question of whether AI creates copyrightable works and how the broader industries respond to that and what’s legally required of them stands as fundamental in the medium term.

Now curious to see what legal scholarship is predicting, which in some cases probably a better predictor.

Cheers!

Yep. I didn’t know that part.

And somewhat symbolically, his account is the first you can follow from mastodon. You can file him and get his posts in your feed right now. I’m on an instance that hasn’t blocked threads and I’m following him now. Creepy TBH.

Social media has really turned into a confirmation bias echo chamber where misinformation can run rampant

Honestly this can be easily overstated in the case of social media relative to anything else humanity does. But and large no one knows anything and is happy talking and speculating as they do. It was true before social media and it will be after.

The fun part is trying to make sense of it all, thus why I said “interesting”.

I personally have thought the copyright dimension one of the more interesting aspects of AI in the short and medium term and have thought so for years. Happy to hear takes and opinions on the issue, especially as I’m not plugged into the space any more.

Interesting take on mastodon on this in this thread: https://hachyderm.io/@Impossible_PhD/111654403989681220

Do you have any tips on how I could get started?

I’m the wrong person as I’ve never started one. Still, some thoughts.

There’s no guarantee you’ll get many people engaging and it can be work to spread awareness of the community in the early days. So be prepared for that and don’t have high expectations. At the very least, if it’s just you posting and moderating any comments that fall outside the rules then it’s probably a nice place to collect your attempts and work over time.

To spread the word, there’s the new communities community for advertising. You could also ask people what they’d find interesting in the fediverse and Kenny communities. Then you could cross post from your community to relevant communities like technology etc.

Beyond that, the interface makes it pretty easy to start a community. Pick one of the major instances or one you trust. Come up with some basic rules, perhaps especially around how feedback or criticism needs to be grated around making an actually better forecast.

And then maybe think of special things that can be done to make it fun for people. Like come up with prompts for forecasts and encourage others to do the same. Look into how a reminder bot can help check out the accuracy of past forecasts. Others might help with you that.

With the new year coming up, it’s a good time to get ball rolling with 1 year forecasts.

I’m definitely migrating

Where to?

The difficulty you’re going to have in trying to start some discourse around this, I think, is that it’s much easier to find a reason for why a forecast is wrong than it is to engage in the actual task of forecasting.

So lots of naysayers, who may even have excellent points, but can’t contribute or help you improve.

Staring a community might be a really cool idea to help with this.

Same thing happens in science where plenty can criticise your work without being able to really offer any help.

I’m with you.

If you haven’t seen it, here’s a great write up about federating with threads that does a really good job of outlining why there’s more to this than “but I have friends and relatives on instagram” and “isn’t it good for the fediverse to be popular?” arguments: https://erinkissane.com/untangling-threads

My little tldr + hot take on the article here: https://hachyderm.io/@maegul/111627736340220610

It’s by @kissane@mas.to on mastodon if you’re on there. I find myself enjoying and agreeing with just about everything they say about the fediverse and social media.

The new 0.19.x version allows you to export and import your basic settings like subscriptions and blocks. I personally haven’t tested it though.

Otherwise, here on lemmy, activity from threads is unlikely to reach us or have too much of an impact as following lemmy communities won’t work well on their end. This presumes that they’ll be focused on implementing microblogging and mastodon compatibility, which are very fair presumptions IMO. Not saying that you shouldn’t care … just that there’s probably much more time than you think. On top of that, Threads’s implementation of federation seems to be going slowly.

reality fanfic. weird.

I mean, a lot of academic/science stuff is arguably reality fanfic.

One basic justification for this … not that one is required I’d say (and I like your encouragement below to start a community for this) … is that practicing thinking through how the world works, even if your predictive accuracy is way off … is a pretty good way exercise the “muscle” of understanding how the world works. Especially if done in collaboration with others and their feedback and counterpoints.

Unless for some countries the cable experience didn’t have ads from square one, then people in those countries have a different reality.

But globally, yes, you’re point is well made and I didn’t know about it (thanks!), and is arguably much more relevant if that timeline and jurisdiction/territory match that of the corporations which currently run the streaming world, which is very much the case by my count.