Th 4B movement isn’t a political statement. At this point, it’s simply self-defense.

Practically/virtually no one believes the phrase “your body, my choice.”

It is “practically/virtually” the ideology of pro-rape right-wingers everywhere. Why the fuck do you think they spent so much effort to crush abortion rights?

I’d like to pet it with a .50 cal.

Boning 8 year olds is tradition.

For whom? You?

What they call “AI” is only “intelligent” within a capitalist frame of reference, too.

Nah. They should just make sure the checks bounce.

They should send Alex Jones a $1 “royalty” check every month - just so that he doesn’t forget it.

Look at Michael Flynn.

So, you chose an example from another country that also cannot win it’s wars despite an overwhelming technological and logistical advantage over it’s victims?

The Palestinians doesn’t seem to have any problems trusting theirs. I wonder why?

That’s because history

History is not an excuse to assign white supremacism any kind of “superiority.”

This seems like an emotional opinion.

Really? I find it funny that a person that claims to base their opinion on history doesn’t seem to understand the intimate link between liberalism and fascism.

If you think Palestine is going to survive for much longer,

The literal ex-commander of the Gaza division doesn’t share your denialism. about Israel’s chances.

Like I said… you give white supremacism a lot of credit.

So expect more of our BOOM BOOMs

You mean the ones that are already there?

Yes, and the last time they got REAL power it took millions of lives

Oh no… they were costing millions of lives looooong before Mussolini gave it a name. And western liberal society was perfectly fine with it both before and after as long as it remained in the colonized world.

It’s almost as if liberalism simply accepts that a bit of fascism every now and then is simply the cost of doing business.

Have they tried as hard as they’re trying right now?

Nope. They have never been this desperate.

Did they have someone named Donald Trump who was interested in helping them

The (so-called) “west” has been interested in helping them since 1948. That’s why they have the kind of firepower now they could only have dreamt of in 1948 - and they are failing nonetheless.

or at least entirely getting out of their way

The US isn’t standing in their way. Palestinians with RPG-7s are standing in their way.

white supremacists are willing to go when given enough power.

White supremacism gave itself all the power it wanted all over the world. And yet, despite this power, one by one the colonialist chickens was forced to come home to roost after the failure of white supremacism to remain dominant in the colonized world. It’s now the US’s turn to experience that failure.

Palestine will cease to exist.

You mean Israel has been trying, and failing, to do since 1948?

You sure do give white supremacists a lot of credit, don’t you?

It’s a very important point, considering that the crux of all the white supremacist propaganda we’ve been fed about Israel rests on the idea that Israel (somehow) “represents” Jewishness… and I’d say this plays right into the hasbara’s hands.

It’s kind of disingenuous.

It portrays Orthodox Jewishness as being responsible for genocidal Zionism when Orthodox Jewishness has pretty much always been vehemently critical of both Zionism and the creation of Israel.

The Jewish Zionists that perpetrated the Nakba looked no different than their fellow Europeans.

You still have not explained why the Colorado ruling that he fomented insurrection is wrong.

Are you placing your trust in the same institutions that are trying to convict the people protesting Pig City on racketeering and terrorism charges?

Or is your mind so thoroughly gouged by liberal brain-rot that fascism becomes perfectly acceptable to you as long as it’s approved by the people “higher up” than you?

Do tell… are white lynch mobs technically illegal in the country that enshrines slavery in it’s constitution?

I am not pretending any such thing.

This you?

And what he and his people rose up against was the certification of Joe Biden’s electoral win.

Zig-zagging sideways does not conflate to up.

Because if it’s wrong, Trump should be on the ballot in Colorado.

Is that what you are really worried about? A rich white supremacist trust-fund baby sicced a white lynch mob on people in the US in front of the world’s cameras, got away with it scott-free and you think your problems only extends to said white supremacist trust-fund baby ending up in the Waffle House again?

I’d say you might want to start worrying about the factors that enabled him to be there in the first place.

And what he and his people rose up against

Lol! Hey, if you are really desperate to pretend that Trump is some kind of “underdog” “rebelling” against the establishment, be my guest.

Trump and his ilk is the establishment - there is absolutely nothing for them to “insurrect” against. Hasn’t been in the US since a pack of rich slavers decided to pretend to be revolutionaries.

The president serves the people, the nation.

Your proof of this is what?

The country is not owned by the President.

No argument from me. It might be a good idea to ask who it is that actually do own it, though.

The President is not a king.

Kings aren’t kings any more.

1. Trump was the government at the time.

2. He didn’t rise to squat - there was literally nothing above him to “rise” against.

3. See no.1

No insurrection to see here, Clyde.

And he’s perfectly correct. Insurrections happen from below - Trump was literally the president of the damn country.

No, he’s not an insurrectionist. You could make the case that this was an (extremely) bumbling attempt at an autocoup… but it’s such an incompetent one that it hardly justifies the word outside of a purely legal framework. He should have asked the dictators from those “shithole countries” he famously disparaged how to do it - they’d show him how properly done autocoups really work.

What I find so strange is that the media in the US doesn’t want to talk about what Trump actually did - sicc a white lynch mob on the capitol. That’s what it was. Fortunately, it was a very incompetent one - the only people they managed to lynch was some of their fascist besties (ie, police - the institution that protected Trump’s fascist enablers from antifa when they were marching in the streets). Yet, for some reason, everybody looks at this and squeals, “insurrection!” instead of calling it what it really is.

Even the most brainwashed fascists are perfectly aware of this - they were just throwing fallacies at the wall and hoping something sticks Alex Jones-style. This is why there can be no “honest debate” with right-wingers. The only reason this bullcrap got any traction was because liberal media hates antifa far more than it does fascism.