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Why the fuck do people let Trump get away with shit that no ordinary person would get away with.

Imagine if we used this same bullshit logic for ordinary people.

“Murderers shouldn’t be stopped by police. We should defeat them in polls.”

“Car thieves shouldn’t be arrested. We should let the American people choose.”

Fucking dumb.

And incidentally, we already did that, in 1868 when the 14th amendment was passed. So leaving it up to the polls is ignoring both the law and the will of the people.

I agree Reddit is toxic. I’d argue reddit actually stopped being Reddit around 2016. But it’s posts like this that clog it all up and are partially why it is the way it is today.

I gotta agree with this. The toxicity in any reddit thread increases dramatically when the poster pre-emptively complains about all the toxicity they expect to receive. Whereas when you just ask straight without going into a whole speech about comment quality, you get much better replies. Particularly because it’s hijacking your own thread; changing it from whatever question you wanted to ask into an analysis of the comments.

Hopefully this prick gets a visit from the FBI for Christmas.

Democracy surely is being undermined, but I don’t think Ms Bradley is focusing on the right things.

The problem is specifically that she is focused on the right things.

Assault is not free speech.

Can we give Trump 49 more of these “gifts” please?

And fuck NBC for posting such a dishonest take.

Unfortunately it’s the American public that is paying the price for the stupid prizes.

My god… this argument again.
Everyone is sooooo concerned about Biden’s age, but not Trumps. It’s bizarrely unbalanced.

Fine dude. Convince him to step aside. I’ll vote against Trump no matter who the Democratic Party fields. Can you say the same?

Why shouldn’t I vote to nominate the Republican that I think would be the best to lead the country from those options?

I mean… you absolutely should! Not even just to “sabotage” Trump. That’s just a good idea in general.

A quick browse of this community will show you that a large percentage of the users here fall into that category.

So… you’re saying someone in NASA has an alien for a grandma? Because that’s all I heard.

If that’s the understanding of my position that you came to after this several-days-long conversation, then I’m disappointed in your complete lack of attention to everything I’ve said.

I thoroughly read and thought about everything you wrote. You failed to convince me, but I at least listened to your position. It’s really disappointing you didn’t offer the same basic courtesy, and your last comment was the same kind of non-sequitur regurgitated rhetoric that the troll posters in this thread have been using.

Peace out, man. It’s a shame we couldn’t have a productive discussion.

And there it is. Not voting for Biden is stamping ones feet. The sheer entitled arrogance. Jesus.

Exactly. You are stamping your feet and exhibiting sheer entitled arrogance.

Your inability to comprehend the logical outcomes of your decisions is seriously disturbing. You’ve been polite enough and engaged honestly with me, and I appreciate that. But I don’t think we’re moving in any productive direction so let’s end it here.

I’ll just leave you with the same words I said before: You need to take a big step back, read everything that you wrote, and apply it to your own position. Then think on the actual outcomes that the two paths before you lead towards.

What a weird take. You’re not rewarding anybody. You’re choosing who will be the next president. You’re making a choice that will affect you and millions of other people.

I said previously I expect people to vote intelligently. You seem to be implying that allowing Trump to win just to spite the Democratic party for choosing Biden is somehow a rational choice.

You brought up blind arrogance.

Imagine being so blind that you fail to see that the outcome of a Trump victory would be devastatingly worse for yourself and for the world. That you’d be supporting an outcome that leads to more and worse genocide, despite that being a “single issue” for you. That’s blind.

Imagine being so arrogant that you’d choose the path that leads to more genocide and greater global suffering, despite genocide apparently being a “single issue” for you, simply to punish a political party made up of millions of people because they didn’t field the candidate you wanted them to. You said yourself: “The Democrats have a membership of millions.” Yet you are the one stamping your feet and threatening that if they choose Biden, you’re going to vote against him just to spite them. And help bring about more genocide, despite that apparently being important to you. That’s arrogance.

You don’t have to like Biden, you just have to prefer the outcome of a Biden victory over the outcome of a Trump victory. It’s akin to choosing between lima beans or rusty nails for everyone’s dinner. You don’t have to like lima beans, but if you are so arrogant to choose the rusty nails for everybody because you don’t want lima beans, you’re blind to how you will hurt others and yourself.

I’m sorry man, but you need to take a big step back, read everything that you wrote, and apply it to your own position. Then think on the actual outcomes that the two paths before you lead towards.

To be faced with two evils and to not choose the lesser one is crazy. Why would you ever not prefer the lesser evil!?

Again, that’s just saying someone better than Biden would be better. I’m not sure who you’re trying to convince that wouldn’t agree with you.

I expect people to vote intelligently based on the outcome they want. If there’s 2 outcomes and they don’t want outcome A, they should vote for B. Complaining that B isn’t sparkly and written in glitter doesn’t change the fact that they don’t want outcome A more.

I don’t know who’s selling this line you think is being sold. I’ll happily vote for a better Democrat than Biden. And I don’t know of anybody who is so enamored with Biden that they’d throw a temper tantrum if he wasn’t the nominee. I actually don’t know what you’re arguing here other than saying “a better person than Biden would be better.” Which is true, but it’s just a tautology.

Wow. That’s not what I said at all. You quoted me and you still got what I said wrong.

Something something sincerely held beliefs.

It’s very much a global thing. It’s happening all over the planet, in various EU countries, in South America, across Asia. Even Canada is seeing a sharp rise in right wing extremism. Trump-like politicians are being elected in many places, and extreme right parties are gaining seats in parliaments, and racist, sexist, intolerant civilians are becoming more and more vocal and violent in every corner of the world.